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BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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How does the printed tether enter the market?

Bitfinex buys cryptos with them on their own exchange. They get free cryptos, and everybody else gets monopoly money in exchange. Tether is such a scam it's unbelievable.

Bitfinex should then sell that crypto for real USD on other exchanges. They could make a killing and then somehow launder the money so that when the Tether scam is exposed, they are safe with real hard USDs.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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Just as reference as the comment here was deleted. Pretty important stuff. http://omnichest.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=3MbYQMMmSkC3AgW... https://i.imgur.com/BsPSZKO.png

Basically I think the tether are fraudulent. I do not have proof but they likely are. What is the best way to make money on them? Can one short tether?

If you're in the UK, try to find a bookie who'll take your bet.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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They don't really "print" a $200million. Finex explanation is that when a user requests USDT they issue new USDT from their USD reserves.

Unless they would prove to the public and/or competent regulatory authorities that they definitely have done that, they should be considered as "printing" this money. Proven reserves count, claimed reserves don't. If USDT is "covered" by reserves that are claimed but not verified, then USDT is not covered.

Tether did a fake "audit" to show they were legitimate: https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/the-so-called-tether-audit-th...

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

#194

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bitcoin: a tool for teaching libertarians the reasons we created regulations at high speed

Bitcoin is a tool for liberating people from the ruling elites and the oppression of crony capitalism.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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Google surely must have a copy, as well as Archive.org. These people benefitted from the scam; they should be held accountable as well.

I love these comments because they highlight the ambivalence of the HN commentariat. If google actually had copies of deleted user data, the privacy-minded would lose their heads. And they’d be right because there are all kinds of laws around this. Deleted user data has to be really gone, even from backups, within a finite time.

You put something up voluntarily on the open internet, you lose your right to keeping that thing private.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

#196

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Had a very similar experience - a friend of our family (also a member of a, let's call it, high-intensity christian denomination) got started in a MLM (MonaVie) and invited me to their "internal" event (one aimed at people already in the network). Oh. My. God. What I saw there was a textbook definition of a cult, a pure affective death spiral[0] instantiated in our material world. People were literally one-upping one…

I'd never heard of MonaVie so I Google'd it and read the Wikipedia page - was slightly surprised to get Amazon adverts for $40 bottles of fruit juice at the same time....

Fortunately, they seem to be defunct now. Good riddance.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

#197

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The fact that you invest in crypto is thinking you are smarter than many well respected experts like Warren Buffet. If you invest in cryptocurrencies (and I do), you are not any more clever than those who bought into BitConnect.

Oh yeah and assuming Warren Buffet et al can literally never be wrong is so much smarter. The world is not black and white.

No, but ponzi schemes and Crypto are on the same spectrum in terms of traditional financial advisement.

Only up until very recently did Crypto as a whole break away from it, and BitConnect just happens to have its foot in both.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

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Lotteries are also illegal to operate privately, which makes them completely irrelevant to this conversation.

> Lotteries are also illegal to operate privately I didn't know that. Does that mean that raffles are technically illegal? Or is there some kind of special-case about winning money?

In different places (states, countries) there are a variety of rules, the goal of which is generally to let people have things like a fun Xmas raffle without opening up the opportunity to run "The Numbers Game" or similar.

To allow a raffle, dodges often enshrined in law include:

* Very low prize limits (e.g. max $100) but donated prizes don't count towards that limit. So your local charitable raffle has no problem getting a nice bottle of Scotch, dinner for two with wine at a nice place, family portrait, whatever local merchants want to donate, and it's all fine, so long as they don't buy it.

* Exemptions if you can only buy tickets in one place, or if you only sell them to members of your organisation that exists for some other purpose (e.g. a local church, employees at a factory)

* Exemptions if the profits of the gambling go to a recognised charitable organisation.

* Exemptions if there's no profit at all, all is spent on prizes that go to ticket buyers randomly, so the whole operation only moves money around randomly inside a group of participants.

Re: BitConnect Closes Exchange as States Warn of Unregulated Sales

#199

BitConnect is definitely a ponzi, but I think this sets the wrong precedent. Exchanges should have voluntarily delisted BCC (many already have, but it still trades on some markets and is listed on coinmarketcap) rather than being forced by threats from the government. This gives regulators credence as our protectors and suggests they will try these strongarm tactics again in the future.

The regulators exist because the entire history of our financial and legal system demonstrates that companies frequently don't "voluntarily" do the right thing when there's money to be made.

Reference: Why mattresses come with warning tags http://nowiknow.com/why-mattresses-come-with-warning-tags/

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I love these comments because they highlight the ambivalence of the HN commentariat. If google actually had copies of deleted user data, the privacy-minded would lose their heads. And they’d be right because there are all kinds of laws around this. Deleted user data has to be really gone, even from backups, within a finite time.

You put something up voluntarily on the open internet, you lose your right to keeping that thing private.

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