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What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by stordoff »

akkat wrote: post #174
anotheryou wrote: post #156

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(Just for clarification, this doesn't make it any better or less traumatizing. It is probably much more traumatizing, people just have to cope with it, because you can't live in constant fear forever.)

I have friend who in Jerusalem Israel during the second intifada. Terrorists were blowing themselves up on busses killing or maiming nearly everyone on the bus. Yet the locals continued to take busses because they needed to get to school or work and stopping normal life until after the terrorism stopped was out of the question. Not everyone can simply go on a vacation until everything fixes itself.

Reminds me of a half-jokey comment I saw a few times after one of the more recent London attacks: Non-Londoners were desperately avoiding central London; Londoners were complaining the Tube was delayed.

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Post by rectangletangle »

cgmg wrote: post #168
rectangletangle wrote: post #140

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The US/Russia/France have already detonated thousands of full power nuclear weapons all across the globe, primarily for testing. Although major cities would be ash, with millions lost in the senseless conflict, life would go on. You'd likely only have health problems if you had acute exposure to the blast. If you live somewhere irrelivant, radiation exposure won't be much more of a concern than it already is currentl…

Why two centuries? Most areas of the world are extremely unlikely to be involved in a nuclear conflict and/or receive significant damage.

Two centuries is somewhat arbitrary, because there are so many assumptions in the notion of "large scale nuclear conflict" as is. Areas that aren't direct targets of nuclear weaponry will still suffer major setbacks, as supply chains for various goods and resources are disrupted. Present day problems, like hunger, access to medical care, and safe drinking water would just become magnified. For example, a nuclear conflict could potentially cascade into a much more dangerous famine, because supply for modern pesticides and agro-chemicals is temporarily destroyed. Supply chains for antibiotics could be disrupted, resulting in outbreaks of various preventable illnesses. If you total all the possibilities up, I suspect the secondary impacts of nuclear conflict would be worse than the actual warfare.

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Post by totalZero »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #70
sschueller wrote: post #65

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Or the continued drone war that is inflicting a continuous terror on many civilians. Now considerd standard operating procedure and no longer mentioned in the media. Imagine living your life not knowing if the coffee place you are visiting is in a drones cross hairs. Then image what kind of hate you would feel towards the country inflicting this terror on you. This is not how you solve extremism and bring peace. This…

Yup. The USA has actively created plenty of shitholes - in places where the faces are not pure European white - and that gets zero public reaction. The current POTUS uses the word shithole to describe a group of countries and he's X, Y and Z. Yeah, Trump is a moron. But the hypocrisy of the press and the public is a moral violation.

The USA has contributed to the development of plenty of flourishing economies. Panama is a rich nation thanks in large part to international cargo shipment. American tourists spend heavily in several other Latin American and Caribbean economies. South Korea is one of the most highly developed nations in the world, despite having been relatively poor prior to the Korean War. Canada and Mexico have benefited for years from NAFTA. World War 2 would have been very different for the Allies if it weren't for American weaponry and involvement. NATO may not have withstood the Cold War were it not for American might.

Maybe you can give some examples to support the narrative of Americans creating poor conditions in non-European countries. It's certainly not Afghanistan, which had been a warzone for a long time before 9/11, which provoked American involvement. And though it's possible, it's hard to argue that Iraqi instability was the sole result of American invasion, as Saddam had massacred several hundred thousand of his own citizens and was trying to change the ethnic makeup of northern Iraq to dampen Kurdish separatism.

So I'm not sure to which countries you are referring.

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Post by matte_black »

pault wrote: post #121
matte_black wrote: post #113

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What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world?

I would think basic knowledge of electrical engineering, solar & battery technology, radio, and mesh networking would make you pretty handy. Front end developers will be the first ones in the stew pot.

If there’s no need for front end devs anymore does that mean apps will be designed in very utilitarian, command line like interfaces with no frills?

That might actually be pleasant.

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Post by tomalpha »

interfixus wrote: post #76
tomalpha wrote: post #51

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> I'm currently living in Japan. So obviously I have a plan for nuclear war. I can't tell whether this is meant seriously or not, but assuming it's serious, I'm genuinely curious as to why this is "obvious"? Is this historical (Hiroshima/Nagasaki) or due to current political tensions?

And I - just as genuinely, and not attempting to troll - am curious how anyone could be in doubt, current reports of red buttons and impressively coiffed heads of state taken into account.

Taking this in good faith (I didn’t downvote you :-) I’ll take a stab at responding:

I was curious as to whether there might be historical or cultural factors in play beyond the immediate political tensions. It’s also worth pointing out that I live in the UK and whilst we get regular news headlines on the state of US politics we’re somewhat removed from much of the immediate political tension. Generalising perhaps, but I also feel less emotionally involved than my US-based acquaintances as a result.

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Post by matte_black »

booleandilemma wrote: post #130
pault wrote: post #121

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I would think basic knowledge of electrical engineering, solar & battery technology, radio, and mesh networking would make you pretty handy. Front end developers will be the first ones in the stew pot.

For most developers there is no overlap with what they know about software and the things listed above.

I don’t know, if any of those things can expose an API or provide some kind of IoT interface I could see backend skills being very useful.

I figure if most data centers are targeted and destroyed people will probably have to host servers on their own local machines, which at least requires a DevOps person in each community.

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Post by esrauch »

gtcode wrote: post #186
McKayDavis wrote: post #102

I live on O'ahu and was holding my phone when the emergency alert came in at 8:07am. I yelled "Oh my God!" and ran to show my wife the message. I've run through this scenario a few times in my head before and I knew every minute was critical -- so I went into action mode immediately. I told my two kids to get dressed now because we were leaving in exactly 1 minute. The reason we were leaving is our house is single-wa…

808-861-6666 happened while on the north shore

What?

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Post by __david__ »

spraak wrote: post #148
nkurz wrote: post #97

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Is your peeve that you believe there exists some unwritten requirement that all place names must use identical spellings without consideration of the language they are written in? If so, I don't think this is reasonable. Words are allowed to change when they are taken from one language to another. It's spelled (and pronounced) Hawai'i when written in Hawaiian. But when writing in English, as the article is, it's typi…

Both the symbol/mark and the sound exist natively in English text and speech, so it bothers me in the same way someone might be bothered by mixing up their/they're or your/you're.

Yes the mark exists, but it has a completely different meaning. It's used in a way that's not a plural, a contraction, or an indication of dropped letters. The mark makes zero sense in English.

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Post by hateduser2 »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #47
0xdada wrote: post #32

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I don't think it's as bad as you think. Check out this thread: https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/952265416289632256 . If shit hits the fan and you end up surviving, your help in the aftermath can be crucial.

If I survive, I'm a refugee, foreign national with minimal language skills, I'm likely in an active war zone and my nation is probably one of the belligerents. My chances don't look good.

Better to take certain death over low odds? R u nuts?
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