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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by pythonaut_16 »

MikkoFinell wrote: post #186
pythonaut_16 wrote: post #155

Just checked and saw the Looking Glass add-on installed on my work laptop. I've uninstalled Firefox and will be removing it from all of my computers. I had just started slowly migrating back to it with the performance enhancements in the latest update, but honestly I don't think I can get past a breach of trust at this level.

Are you switching to Chrome, the browser that sends your every keystroke back to HQ?

Google does a lot of things but they've never betrayed my trust by installing an extension in conjunction with a third party without telling me.

Google does track a lot of my data but they provide useful services in exchange, and in addition they make it pretty easy to see what data they have on me. Also Google's data is its competitive advantage so our interest in protecting my data from 3rd parties is aligned.

In short, Google tracks me sure, but they're pretty transparent about it. I do think some of the things Google does with Chrome and it's market position is less than stellar so I'm still exploring other options. If you have any suggestions I'd be happy to hear them.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by talmand »

teamhappy wrote: post #165
roywiggins wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never knowingly opted in to anything and found both the "Studies" section and the "pug-experience" study turned on just now in about:studies. I don't know if it really is meant to be opt-in, but it certainly didn't seem like they've done it correctly.

The wiki page says that no changes are made until you opt in. Can you tell if you're part of the game? (I assume you'd be able to tell somehow)

I did not recall agreeing to opt-in for the studies and there it is under Privacy & Security as checked.

I have the pug experience study active and I don't recall the browser asking about it.

From the studies about page linked from about:studies...

"When a study is available, you will automatically be enrolled if you meet the criteria. There will be occasions where we might prompt you for participation first."

Just saw also that if you opt-in for the "Allow Firefox Developer Edition to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla" then it automatically checks the studies checkbox for you. I would wonder if I checked the allow sharing at some point in the past, or during installation, with no mention of the studies option. So it was presumed to opt me into the studies automatically.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by mynewtb »

dao- wrote: post #159
proaralyst wrote: post #7

Looks like it's a promo for Mr Robot, which is really not ok. > What's happening? Are you a fan of Mr Robot? Are you trying to solve one of the many puzzles that the Mr Robot team has built? You’re on the right track. Firefox and Mr Robot have collaborated on a shared experience to further your immersion into the Mr Robot universe, also known as an Alternate Reality Game (ARG). The effects you’re seeing are a part of…

> Looks like it's a promo for Mr Robot, which is really not ok. From what I've heard (I work for Mozilla), this is promo for Firefox. As I just wrote elsewhere in this thread: I believe the idea is that Mr. Robot fans use Firefox to participate in the ARG, not that Firefox users suddenly start watching Mr. Robot. So if anything I'd expect that Mozilla pays Mr. Robot for this.

That would be an idiotic waste of money by a non-profit organisation considering the audience of Mr Robot.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by djsumdog »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #155

Just checked and saw the Looking Glass add-on installed on my work laptop. I've uninstalled Firefox and will be removing it from all of my computers. I had just started slowly migrating back to it with the performance enhancements in the latest update, but honestly I don't think I can get past a breach of trust at this level.

I switched to Vivaldi a few months back and tried out FF57 recently. I really wanted to move back to FF again, but two weeks in, the performance enhancements just seem really overrated. The UI is still draggy, load times are not great.

I ended up going back to Vivaldi.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by lozenge »

calcifer wrote: post #145
linkmotif wrote: post #63

I checked out FF for the zillionth time the other week after the Quantum release hoping to love it, but the deep Pocket integration was just too offputting. Turning it off requires some Googling. There were other irritating commercial things too. It’s a shame. FF is probably the most important open source project in the world and it’s a shame they do stuff like this. I’m still on Chrome :(

> but the deep Pocket integration was just too offputting You mean the single button that does literally nothing until and unless you click on it?

Add a couple more buttons and hey, you've got a toolbar going.

Why can't they just make a web browser that's... just a web browser? Chrome has never had buttons to email pages with gmail, record videos onto YouTube, share pages on G+ etc.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by mynewtb »

confounded wrote: post #184

While I agree that releasing this as an undocumented extension was a poor PR move, in practical terms, I don’t see how this is any more insidious than the ‘no internet’ dinosaur jumping game built in to chrome. Both are first-party. The difference seems to be that the dinosaur game keeps you entertained, where as this hopes to promote awareness of privacy/security.

The dinosaur was not placed there by a movie studio to promote a random.movie.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by MikkoFinell »

pythonaut_16 wrote: post #191
MikkoFinell wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you switching to Chrome, the browser that sends your every keystroke back to HQ?

Google does a lot of things but they've never betrayed my trust by installing an extension in conjunction with a third party without telling me. Google does track a lot of my data but they provide useful services in exchange, and in addition they make it pretty easy to see what data they have on me. Also Google's data is its competitive advantage so our interest in protecting my data from 3rd parties is aligned. In s…

Thanks, thats the funniest thing I've read all week.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by mynewtb »

teddyfrozevelt wrote: post #36
_red wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the fact that Firefox increasingly makes me jump through all sorts of hoops to find all the hidden options to turn off their various spyware attempts. Its the Win10 of browsers...

Going through your browser settings really is quite the hoop.

How are you supposed to do turn the defaults to a reasonable level of privacy without launching Firefox once though?

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Post by djsumdog »

kuschku wrote: post #176
_Codemonkeyism wrote: post #136

Anyone know how I can turn off Firefox sending technical details and interactions? Everytime I turn this off, and restart FF it's on again. 58.0b11

If you are on a Nightly or Developer build, you can not turn it off, I asked on Mozilla’s IRC. Downloading these builds is considered opt-in into telemetry, and toolkit.telemetry.enabled is hardcoded to enabled, the opt-out checkbox literally does nothing, I was told. And about:config confirmed this.

Wow ... that's .. disturbing
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