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iPhone X Teardown

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#191

> Today, we're taking apart Apple's 18th iteration That seems a bit exaggerated. Original 3G 3GS 4 4S 5 and 5C 5S 6 and 6 Plus 6S, 6S Plus, SE 7 and 7 Plus 8, 8 Plus, X I count 11 iterations. 18 total products.

i don't think it's over-exaggerated at all. over exaggeration would be saying, "100th iteration."

to them they have to consider each as it's own iteration because they're picking the device completely apart.

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#192

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

Typing this from a Pixel 2 XL after having been a happy Pixel XL owner. The 2 is truly the greatest phone I've ever owned, and that includes iphones along the way. If this is what you get with a software company building hardware, I'd say keep it up.

Looks like yours shipped with an OS, congrats!

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#193
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Judging from how bad the software is getting I’d wager they forgot this.

At least it's not Windows. I'm amazed at how something as basic as Bluetooth has been completely fucked for me since I got a PC. On no other platform have my Bose QC35s, AirPods, or wireless Logitech headset had issues. On Windows 10, they hardly work at all. Ironically the only device that works for longer than a few seconds before losing audio is my AirPods, which I still have to reconnect frequently to get the aud…

FWIW, I just got rid of my wireless keyboard and mouse because I was tired of weird random connecting issues with my Macbook.

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#194

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Yea, but that OS is everything. They barely make any software outside of it. And it's the best mobile OS by far.

iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You can't watch a YouTube video while doing something else. Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. You can't even do basic things like set a system-wide default browser. Android O is light years ahead of iOS.

> The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix

You can quit e easily watch Plex (can’t remember if Netflix bothered) in the background while doing other shut with the PIP.

> you can’t watch a YouTube video either.

Which is YouTube’s fault ENTITELY. They are pushing YouTube red to allow for this (which isn’t even available in a lot of countries they advertise it in....)

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#195

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Yea, but that OS is everything. They barely make any software outside of it. And it's the best mobile OS by far.

iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You can't watch a YouTube video while doing something else. Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. You can't even do basic things like set a system-wide default browser. Android O is light years ahead of iOS.

>Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen.

This is a feature, not a bug.

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#196

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Yea, but that OS is everything. They barely make any software outside of it. And it's the best mobile OS by far.

iOS is a toy OS. The notifications alone make it useless for office productivity. The limitations on background processing break, say, Plex or Netflix sync. You can't watch a YouTube video while doing something else. Apps like FB Messenger can't display useful overlays on the screen. You can't even do basic things like set a system-wide default browser. Android O is light years ahead of iOS.

1) The limitations on background processing are deliberate to prevent applications from needlessly consuming battery life/mobile data.

2) It is Google's fault that you can't watch YouTube whilst doing something else. Apple provided an API which third party YouTube clients already support.

You can debate whether Android O is better or not. But I would hardly call iOS a toy just because it doesn't allow for rich notifications.

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#197
I've owned various iPhones (starting with the 4 in 2010) and I'm going to take a serious look at the Pixel 3 in 2018.

Performance is a feature, and I don't see a compelling reason why I should upgrade my 6S. I have a suspicion that Apple will keep the '6' chassis they've stuck with since the release of the 6 (6/6S/7/8) at 2GB of memory, and will continue to do so with the 9 next year. Pixel 2 performance with 4GB of memory is impressive. And I will not pay $1000 for a phone, that's absurd.

Features I focus on when evaluating a phone - how quickly does the device unlock? Does it have a fingerprint reader? How quickly can I open the camera app? How are the photos? (I really hope Android device makers diverge from Apple and pursue a under the front glass fingerprint reader instead of facial recognition). I could care less about AI assistants/animojis. Get the basics down.

Google _still_ has significant QA issues nearly six years after designing their first phone (Nexus 4) for OEM manufacturing.

RCS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services) still needs to get off the ground. Until then, iMessage will still rule. My family is familiar with the built in messaging app, and I'm not asking my parents to use a separate app for texting. RCS will be able to replace iMessage for us.

Apple is a $875 billion dollar company because they figured out how to do customer service/QA/hardware and designed an easy to use OS.

I'm not asking Google to focus on ease of use for the OS, just get QA/service/hardware correct, at a $650 price point.

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#198

The SIM card holder's size shows its age. It is literally as big as the A11 package. Such archaic things need to evolve or disappear. What's the status on electronic SIM? We don't need a piece of plastic that holds a numeric key and takes up EXPENSIVE real-estate in one of the most densely packed electronic devices in the world. Apple doesn't have the leverage to sway the standards?

But how does it work while travelling? Yes you can buy roaming packs, but local SIM cards are as low as 5$ for unlimited LTE.

Wrong question. You should be wondering how walled off it is going to be.

I mean it won't be that hard to make it so that you can easily load a different esim when traveling. It will have many slots, since it can just emulate more and more. But is that in everybody's interest?

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> A software company building hardware is Google, and it's Pixel phones show FWIW Google has put a lot of effort in the hardware of their datacenters, and in that sense they're a hardware giant as well. Compared to their datacenter projects, Pixel is a funny hobbby for Google.

Absolutely. The servers in their production racks are nearly 100% custom down to the silicon and involve serious amounts of engineering to make happen.

Just curious - How are their servers different than FB's who also modified the heck out of them?

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#200

Truly impressive. Smaller, yet faster than the competition. Surprising how many of the chips are now internal Apple components: 1. CPU/GPU 2. Auxiliary Machine Learning/AI chip 3. NAND controller 4. IR Deapth sensor & signal processing chip 5. Power management IC (surprising that Apple is doing Analog IC design too!) Axiom in the tech world is that "Apple is a software company that builds hardware". Above is ample ev…

> A software company building hardware is Google, and it's Pixel phones show FWIW Google has put a lot of effort in the hardware of their datacenters, and in that sense they're a hardware giant as well. Compared to their datacenter projects, Pixel is a funny hobbby for Google.

> Pixel is a funny hobbby for Google

Seems like it but unfortunately it is their product and they are selling it.

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