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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by Slaul »

beezle wrote: post #158
Slaul wrote: post #39

I am excited for this phone (as a lifelong Android user) because of the large screen in the small form factor. I really appreciate high resolution screens but I'm tired of needing ginormous phones to get it. This device seems to have a great screen in the perfect form factor for me. I'm waiting to see some reviews before purchasing but the iPhone X is probably going to be my next phone. Sidenote, anybody have any tip…

I agree it would be nice to have a 5" height smartphone with 85 to 90% screen coverage. Doesn't look to happen. And iphone X is really no different size wise to its current/recent competition. The S8 is slightly taller (5mm) and slightly narrower (3mm) with a very slightly larger screen at higher dpi. The V30 screen is 10% larger, higher dpi but at cost of additional 8mm height and 5mm width. For comparision, the dia…

I was mistaken about the competitors, I didn't realize how close in size the V30 and S8 were. I was comparing with my current phone, the nexus 6P. I was mostly looking at the "+" phones for the higher resolution displays. I was probably foolish not to look more closely at the other competitors.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by jpalomaki »

jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

There's no room for revolution in smartphone space anymore. The market is too competitive and everybody is tracking it too closely. Revolution can take place in overlooked product categories (think tablets when iPad was introduced - I'd claim that was true revolution since it took significant time for the competitors to really catch up with Apple).

On one hand this is pretty sad. There's no wow factor, no truly exciting product releases. On the other hand the frequent releases mean that you can upgrade whenever and you always get pretty much latest available technology thanks to the yearly incremental updates vendors are releasing.

I'm getting suspicious if anything revolutionary can happen in the consumer electronics space. Companies are too eager to release early instead of keeping the stuff under wraps until it is amazing. Take wearable augmented reality devices as an example. We saw Google Glass years ago and then Microsoft Hololens. Now if somebody actually delivers a reasonably good mass market device in 2019 it hardly feels revolutionary after these prototypes. Same thing with VR headsets and smart watches.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by Aloha »

matwood wrote: post #157
Aloha wrote: post #133

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I was an android early adopter who switched in 2012 - and I'll explain why. At the time I had a T-Mobile G2 which was approaching the end of its natural lifecycle, I was also dissatisfied with the software quality of android overall - at the time I was looking for another android phone running stock android with a keyboard (something that didnt exist effectively), because the android on screen keyboard at the time wa…

I'm in a similar boat as you. I was an iPhone user who switched to the HTC One for Android, and had problems. I then went to a Nexus 5 thinking it would fix my issues, but still had various problems. When the large screen iPhones came out I gave up my experiment, switched back, and wondered why I ever left. People tell me Android has improved since then, but it always felt not quite done. I'm still happy with the iPh…

I consider hardware quality to be about equal across smartphone vendors, aside from obvious bugs in new hardware.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by ProAm »

zimpenfish wrote: post #48
pacala wrote: post #24

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TouchID requires me to touch the device. I _know_ when I'm identified. FaceID works at a distance, data could easily leak to any number of surveillance programs, corporate or governmental.

> FaceID works at a distance Do you know what distance? I mean, literally no-one has an iPhone X right now to test this. > data could easily leak to any number of surveillance programs Never leaves the Secure Enclave on the phone - same as Touch ID.

> I mean, literally no-one has an iPhone X right now to test this.

You're commenting on an article written by a guy with an iPhoneX

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Post by seba_dos1 »

Slaul wrote: post #121
seba_dos1 wrote: post #104

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Switching to Apple doesn't really seem like a good way to move towards being more privacy conscious. Even if you don't mind the walled garden and lack of control of your own device (you should if you really want to care about privacy), recent revelations like silently granting special permissions to Uber app should remove any remaining appeal there may have been in them.

I'm not looking to build the fort knox of phones or anything, I'm trying to take the path of least resistance to having a more private, secure device. I'd rather have a phone/OS built by a company whose primary source of revenue is not user data. From my, admittedly limited, understanding of the issues between iOS and Android it seems like iOS is more secure/privacy oriented with some obvious caveats like the Uber ap…

All I'm saying is that you'll just be under a delusion. False sense of security is way worse than no security at all.

If you really want/need to stick to the big two systems, some AOSP build with microG is way better option that iOS, where you can do almost nothing to actually get your privacy back into your own hands.

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Post by Theodores »

ahartmetz wrote: post #134
treepeople wrote: post #92

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>the screen shape on this phone just makes so little sense. It is the only design that makes sense. The other manufacturers just put a bar down the bottom that has no purpose at all. No one cares about a notch. Obsessive personalities are just fixating on it.

Here is what I think is the real purpose of the notch: Phones, and especially iPhones, are status symbols. A brand new iPhone only works as a status symbol if the people you want to impress can actually see at a glance that you have the latest model. It's the only strong and clear reason for this weird design I can think of.

People are forgetting that Steve Jobs was always about the tech and the marketing. In his mind the marketing and putting the customer first was every bit as important as the product. Apple really was a synergy of product and marketing from the get go.

A lot of work went into the notch, I doubt that Mr Ive et al. thought the marketing angle first but you are right, the biggest thing about the notch is people 'bikeshed' over it and talk about it. It gets noticed. And yes it does identify you as having the latest model. That takes you into the marketing that Apple is 50% about (with tech being the other 50% in how Steve Jobs did products).

Although we no longer have Steve Jobs at the helm his vision lives on in the team that he built.

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Post by matwood »

aetherson wrote: post #178
matwood wrote: post #146

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Because that's a bad place for the sensor. If I have to pick up my phone and touch the sensor on the back, I might as well use FaceId.

Well, unless you're taking your phone out of your pocket. Seriously, the "back of phone" placement for the fingerprint sensor has downsides when it comes to "phone on the table," but it's awesome for the pocket. I just got a Pixel 2 XL, which has a more reliable fingerprint reader than any other one I've used (comparison points: Nexus 5x, iPhone 6+, 2017 Macbook Pro touchbar), and it's amazing. My phone is utterly re…

My 7+ also unlocks fast and reliably every time. I sometimes purposely use a different finger to make sure it still works.

I've tried the back of phone ones and they just do not work for me. For me, back of phone is a downgrade. I guess having both FaceId and back of phone would not impact me, but only going back of phone would have me sticking with the older phones as long as possible.

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Post by themihai »

conception wrote: post #144
jack6e wrote: post #131

Even though the overall tone of this review was upbeat and positive, it seemed that the baseline conclusion was: "hopefully we find a use for the minor iterative improvements that will make this more than just the next release in a series of underwhelming releases." For one of the first, selectively-chosen reviews of what is supposed to be a ground-breaking product, the article essentially told us 1) the pictures loo…

The X is Apple playing catch up feature wise, but they seem to be catching up the way they always do; being a leader in the pack. Fastest phone by far, arguably the best camera (really comes down to preference vs Pixel), but what I'm excited about is for stuff I've dreamed of from Apple - OLED (dark themes matter now!), thicker phone for more battery life and Plus features without the ShoePhone size from a company th…

Apparently the OLED display is a 1st generation(older) OLED from Samsung...It really felt to me they made a big deal just like they did with 4K on Apple TV.... same technology like the competition, one year later. The camera on Samsung seems to be better too. The only thing that keeps me on Apple ecosystem is iOS and MacOS...

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Post by BatFastard »

iamatworknow wrote: post #154
Aloha wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was an android early adopter who switched in 2012 - and I'll explain why. At the time I had a T-Mobile G2 which was approaching the end of its natural lifecycle, I was also dissatisfied with the software quality of android overall - at the time I was looking for another android phone running stock android with a keyboard (something that didnt exist effectively), because the android on screen keyboard at the time wa…

This mirrors my own experience. As a Samsung Note 2/4 owner I used to give myself a lot of excuses as to why iPhones were "bad" -- non-expandable storage (even though I never maxed out the storage that came built in with my Android phones), non-user replaceable battery (even though my battery hardly ever dips below 50%, as whenever I'm in a place where I can plug it in, it's plugged in), a more restrictive ecosystem…

Android is much tighter these days
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