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> ifupdown has been deprecated in favor of netplan and is no longer present on new installs [...] > Given that ifupdown is no longer installed by default, its commands will not be present: ifup and ifdown are thus unavailable, replaced by ip link set $device up and ip link set $device down. Sad to see this go; I always use ifup, ifdown and ifconfig. Yes, they're old and clunky tools but in a way they are the staple o…
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If 18.04 isn't awesome, I'd suggest you give 18.04.1 a try. Even LTS releases have a fair number of issues just after release, in my experience, which the first point release fixes.
Yes, agreed. In general I guess my point is, I'm not willing to spend several more years of my life while they continually rearrange things that don't matter. I just want a stable, well-supported distro that gets out of my way. The time cost of switching has still been high enough that I haven't looked elsewhere, but that barrier is approaching...
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Unity8 is as dead as Ubuntu Phone (if you don't count community forks). Gnome is the future of Ubuntu, there will be no Mir, there will be no Unity8.
As I said, Mir has a fresh release in this release, and continued development. If it's dead in the water... You might want to go tell the team.
They look like they have only had half a dozen bugs lodged in the last six months. Doesn't seem too vibrant for an actively-developed desktop.
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As I said, Mir has a fresh release in this release, and continued development. If it's dead in the water... You might want to go tell the team.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.tag=unity8-desktop&... They look like they have only had half a dozen bugs lodged in the last six months. Doesn't seem too vibrant for an actively-developed desktop.
Mir on the other hand, looks quite active.
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I doubt very much Ubuntu has made python3 /usr/bin/python, since the official recommendation of the Python project is to not do that. Still true of course that it doesn't have to be installed by default even if some applications still need it.
> I doubt very much Ubuntu has made python3 /usr/bin/python, since the official recommendation of the Python project is to not do that. Tell that to Arch. :(
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1% of users with very particular requirements should not hold back the experience of the other 99%.
Where do you get these numbers ? At work, I do not know where the servers are physically located (some VMware ESX in a closet). Most of my colleagues are in the same situation. Even for windows, many people use terminal services for teleworking. At my previous job in Belgium, it was similar (with a different X server). I have provided support to Nederlands and Portugal using X11VNC. Outside work, my wife and my mothe…
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This tool is hardly new, I think it was introduced back in the nineties. http://linux-ip.net/gl/ip-cref/ says April 14, 1999.
I think it's not a good thing to mention age as if that matters much. Would you argue that gpg is old and therefore good software? I would argue instead that iproute2 was not picked up quickly because it's clunky and hard to reason about. openBSD managed to improve ifconfig enough that a change was not needed. I applaud that to be honest.
End result is that anything older than the person talking is stale and clunky code best replaced by something written in the latest bling language that "everyone" raves about...
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I've been using Gnome on Wayland as my primary desktop on Arch and Fedora for several months if not a year. It's a marked improvement over Gnome/Xorg, and most of the issues have now been resolved. You might need to find new ways to accomplish a few tasks, though. But I can attest it works. Edit: fix desktop/compositor confusion
> It's a marked improvement over Gnome/Xorg […] How so?
32-bit installer images are no longer provided for Ubuntu Desktop. The Ubuntu Desktop now uses GNOME instead of Unity. On supported systems, Wayland is now the default display server. The older display server is still available: just choose Ubuntu on Xorg from the cog on the log in screen. GDM has replaced LightDM as the default display manager. The login screen now uses virtual terminal 1 instead of virtual terminal…
In other words, they've made a lot of big changes right before an LTS version so that they can get wider usage with those who don't mind being on the bleeding edge. Sounds like they're doing it right :) I'm putting a lot of hope into 18.04. Been using Ubuntu for over a decade now and my happiness with it has been steadily decreasing. Mostly at this point due to very laggy graphics performance (whether using OSS or cl…
And yes, it's nice and smooth.
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I love, love, love python. I am probably irrational in my affection for the language. But it's python3 that I know and will work in python2 if needed but I think python2 needs to die a quick death.
I have been using python2 for veey long time and a lot of software that I've written is made with it and is providing consistingly value to me. I have no idea why these people want to kill the technology that has brought so much value and joy to my life. If you like python3, great for you. But why do you want to kill python2 if other people are happy with it?
You can make the same argument for any software suite which moves over time. Why should Firefox 10 die, just because Firefox 57 is out in a month or so?
Well.. Duh. The new code has to live somewhere, and we don't want to spend eternity backporting fixes to the old codebase.
Please do note: You can still use Python 2 if you like. But if you rely on really old and antiquated technology, you can't expected modern OSes to ship it by default. Now it becomes your liability to instruct your users in how to obtain your antiquated dependencies for your software to work.
Maybe that is a good enough solution, or maybe some day you will find that it's more beneficial to move along with the rest of the ecosystem.
Nobody writes new code in Python 2 any more. It's the programming language equivalent of Windows XP at this point.