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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by callahad »

yborg wrote: post #178

So I kind of rely on Xmarks since I have to run on multiple browsers, and afaik it's still the only cross-platform sync system. Unfortunately it's also pretty much abandonware and highly unlikely to get ported to WebExtensions :/ Is there anything else out there that has similar functionality that would be compatible?

WebExtensions started with Chrome API compatibility as a base, so you may be able to just download the Chrome version's .crx file, unpack it, and run it in Firefox, perhaps with some minor tweaks.

You can upload the CRX to https://www.extensiontest.com/ to check if it's likely to be compatible.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by mastax »

yoz-y wrote: post #157
azeirah wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linux is not a touch-driven operating system as far as I know. There are so many issues with touch in Linux that I don't even know where to start. But.. that's not what you were getting at, just a tiny rant ;(

macOS does not support touch at all though

macOS supports touch really well, you're just expected to touch a pad not a screen.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by dalfonso »

joosters wrote: post #105
dalfonso wrote: post #98

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Bitwarden also doesn’t support per login “re-enter master password”.

Not sure what you mean? There's a settings->Lock options which has choices from 'immediately, [various times], on restart, and never'. Or do you mean something like 'you must re-enter your master password for particular sites'?

Yes, 'you must re-enter your master password for particular sites'. I liked turning that option on for any e-commerce or highly sensitive sites.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by hossbeast »

reikonomusha wrote: post #30
baby wrote: post #16

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Is Tree Style Tab working on it? I've disabled updates until further notice.

Tree Style Tab is the killer feature for me and some of my scientist coworkers. If this disappears or doesn’t work, I’ll probably use Chrome.

Is there a Tree Style Tabs extension for chrome? I thought it was only possible in FF.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by gervase »

Fnoord wrote: post #168
DiabloD3 wrote: post #109

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Switch to Bitwarden, already has a WebExtension extension. Lastpass is basically dead ever since LogMeIn proved they don't care about security of the vault.

Dead to me ever since they decided to raise the price with 100% for no reason (from consumer PoV) whatsoever. Classic bait & switch. Is there an easy way to convert your current Lastpass database to Bitwarden?

Yes: https://help.bitwarden.com/article/import-from-lastpass/

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

mastax wrote: post #188
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #131

Is the idea here that they'll just keep switching out pieces written in C++ for Rust until all of Firefox is Rust, rather than launching a new product?

Not really. Parts of Firefox like Tracemonkey (or whatever they call the js engine now) aren't going to be rewritten because it would take a decade to do. I expect that Firefox will always be built more like a C++ project with Rust components than the other way. That said "project quantum" is about improving the browser which applies to all of the code not just the Rust parts.

I see. The page didn't really go into specifics about how they made Firefox Quantum faster, so I had assumed that it was faster because they were rewriting parts in Rust.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by low_battery »

pcwalton wrote: post #164
low_battery wrote: post #154

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Unfortunately, as long as Firefox security infrastructure does not match Chrome, I can not use it. Note that errors like use-after-free and buffer overflows are marked as Critical (run arbitrary code on computer) for Firefox, but marked as High (execute code in the context of, or otherwise impersonate other origins.) for Chrome because of sandboxing. Firefox: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabiliti…

Firefox sandboxing does not use Rust. Servo sandboxing (work in progress) does. It's not accurate to say that Firefox has no sandbox. Sandboxing work has been rolling out for many months now, and later versions have increasingly restrictive sandboxes. You can see the current status per version here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Sandbox#Current_Status Hardening the sandbox is a constant work in progress, but it's…

Sorry I didn't mean Sandboxing used Rust, It was a separate thing (That Rust is less susceptible to such class of errors, so the more code written in Rust the better) Also didn't mean it has no sandboxing (I knew about efforts), my point was its security is not a match for Chrome yet, as seen from the amount and type of critical errors.

When it is there I would definitely use it along with Chrome.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by kosi28 »

foolfoolz wrote: post #61
DiabloD3 wrote: post #44

As someone that jumped ship from how slow Chrome has gotten and went to Nightly /w Stylo and (CPU threads - 1) e10s processes enabled about 2 monthsish ago... Holy damn Firefox is actually fast. Fair comparison, both having Pocket, uBlock, Evernote, OneNote, Pushbullet, and Bitwarden; neither of them having an extension the other doesn't. Above described Firefox Nightly config vs Chrome Dev. Test machines are a works…

I never thought I'd say this but the 2 fastest bowsers on my computer are Firefox and Edge

Well that's because Chrome is busy doing random crap like this in the background - chrome://site-engagement/

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by callahad »

baby wrote: post #135
addicted wrote: post #21

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Theyve built a whole development model reliant on extensions (Test Pilot). They’ve made tremendous progress on enhancing the extensions API. To say that they don’t care about extensions doesn’t seem to match the efforts you can see in the browser.

They def. don't care about Tree Style Tabs which is the reason number one a lot of people use Firefox.

There are functioning development builds of TST as a WebExtension. This is what it looked like last month: https://i.imgur.com/IBx8F6L.png

Not sure how that translates to "not caring."

Edit: Oh, hey, look, the WebExtension version has been published: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by TuringTest »

baby wrote: post #124
etatoby wrote: post #119

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Plus, there's that recent Webkit-based browser with vertical tabs as it's main feature. It was covered here on HN a few days ago.

What is it????

Vivaldi, maybe? But I don't think it has nested tabs.
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