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France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

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Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

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Post by 0x4a42 »

0x4a42 wrote: post #15
pjc50 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

L'etat, c'est nous. (Yes, that's a joke in French, but I'm not really about to type a treatise on popular sovereignty in the Spanish constitution for two reasons. Firstly I'm on a phone, and secondly I know nothing about it) I do wish one day we could have a discussion that didn't have to argue the existence of gonvernment and taxation from first principles, but today is not that day.

Oui !

Getting downvoted because I agree with Lénine. :-/

This is too unfair. [0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmzOCtsZTW4 [0]

Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

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Post by Boothroid »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #146
Renaud wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you got that so many people in the EU rejoice at the defection of the UK. It is a sad state of affair that gets the rest if the EU sad and angry. I don't see what there is to rejoice about, although I'm sure that some will see it as a benefit in some narrow way.

Actually, UK was never part of the EU ( fully). I'm glad that's over now, i don't think UK will benefit on the long term and I hope the responsable politicians will be punished. But at least the will be no more exceptions for participating members of the EU. The EU was a good concept, but exceptions to members states ( not only UK, but also for Belgium eg. To much debt), made it a lot less usefull Damned politicians.…

Plenty of examples of the supposedly core EU members flouting the rules when it suited them also.

Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

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Post by Boothroid »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #146
Renaud wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you got that so many people in the EU rejoice at the defection of the UK. It is a sad state of affair that gets the rest if the EU sad and angry. I don't see what there is to rejoice about, although I'm sure that some will see it as a benefit in some narrow way.

Actually, UK was never part of the EU ( fully). I'm glad that's over now, i don't think UK will benefit on the long term and I hope the responsable politicians will be punished. But at least the will be no more exceptions for participating members of the EU. The EU was a good concept, but exceptions to members states ( not only UK, but also for Belgium eg. To much debt), made it a lot less usefull Damned politicians.…

The EU's worst nightmare is a successful UK post-Brexit. The general feeling amongst my friends and colleagues is that we are more than willing to put in the hard graft to make it happen. Anyone that thinks the UK will roll over is going to be disappointed.

Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

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Post by Boothroid »

zdkl wrote: post #107
Renaud wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know where you got that so many people in the EU rejoice at the defection of the UK. It is a sad state of affair that gets the rest if the EU sad and angry. I don't see what there is to rejoice about, although I'm sure that some will see it as a benefit in some narrow way.

Rejoice is indeed a bit strong, but definitely at least Schadenfreude for the foot-bullet aimed at their trust & reputation centered industries.

In your opinion. Given the fascistic bullying of sovereign nations Hungary and Poland by Brussels for merely defending their citizens' interests, perhaps the writing is on the wall.

Re: France, Germany, Italy, Spain seek to base taxes on digital giants' revenues

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Post by _5ysi »

danmaz74 wrote: post #143
halad wrote: post #116

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Being an economic liberal, I always thought that this was one of the main advantages of the EU. Setup shop in one country and sell to the whole single market while encouraging beneficial tax competition. I do oppose special deals for specific companies though. Ireland, please stand up to the Brussels cartel!

"Tax competition" is only beneficial to the rich and to smaller states that can steal taxes from bigger ones. But of course, if you oppose free schools, free healthcare, and you favor the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer, I understand why you like it.

Corporate tax is one of the most damaging forms of taxation in terms of the number and size of distortions it creates in an economy and it is very damaging to national competitiveness as well. But being in favor of lower corporate tax does not preclude supporting various other wealth redistribution schemes to help the poor or reduce inequality.

If the EU is more concerned about the specific case of internet giants rather than multinational firms in general, they could tax this in a much more practical way by having state run internet service providers charge these content companies for access to their markets.

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