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Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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There were real deals on Amazon hardware devices (Echo, Fire, etc). Most everything else was "meh". camelcamelcamel.com is your friend to research how good of a deal it really is. (no affiliation, just a happy user)

One good deal was topping up on Amazon credit. There was a $5 Prime Day bonus, plus the other $10 for topping up $100. 15% for free can cover for prices that aren't necessarily the cheapest, especially when prime shipping fees are considered.

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"Order within the next 5 hours and receive free next day shipping". Hmm. OK. click "Please review your order. $8.99 for next day shipping or free two day shipping." Uh, OK. 'Check two day shipping. Submit' "Your order has been placed. Delivery date - 5 days from now"

Shipping with prime has gotten much less appealing lately. It used to be seeing that logo meant it was coming tomorrow, or maybe the next day - now it's almost useless, as even third party sellers can show up as prime shipping. Lots more "available if you spend 30 dollars" prime choices now too, where that 30 dollars has to be in similar tier prime level products.

Trying to win free shipping as a paying prime member is now often a game of trying to be clever - the game they really, really want you to play. I'm growing more and more tired of it, but for now - the time saved going to places locally or site-hopping to find the best deal is still worth more to me, but "for now" means that it's basically under review - that game playing is really making me evaluate that convenience/cost balance..

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I've become more and more disillusioned by Amazon over the years. Prices are now almost never the best; I only buy from them when I need something quickly (and can't get it locally). NewEgg (nearly) always has better tech prices. Walmart often has better prices on everyday items and I can have it immediately. I just bought a pair of tweezers at my local grocery store for two bucks that was $6 on Amazon for the same m…

I use Amazon now as an eBay replacement for specific hard to find items. I wanted a heavy duty cabana-style beach umbrella. Amazon was the best place to find it by far.

For just about everything else, Amazon doesn't really offer a great price and the "convenience" value isn't really worth it anymore to me. I can't order lots of routine stuff due to the fraud issues. Even books are usually cheaper at the local bookstore these days.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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So you just helped continue the fraud? Things aren't gonna improve by complaining on HN.

There's no point in debating the moral issues when our world is anything but. It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy. In this particular situation the interaction was between me and the seller. Reviews are written, edited, removed by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers.

> It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy.

I don't agree with your actions, but I definitely agree with your statement. It's like judging people for paying less taxes via loopholes, yet it's perfectly legal. We focus on judging the action, rather than fixing the problem.

In this case, judging you for using a broken system, akin to tax loopholes, may not be "good" - but it's certainly not the root of the problem. Judging you would, at best, just cause one more "victim" (for lack of a better word), and completely ignore the root cause.

We as a nation need to - at the very least - focus equally on the root cause as much as those doing something we don't like. In this case, the company and/or Amazon are far more meaningful and fruitful subjects to lay blame on. Forcing one person to keep an item is not going to fix anything but ensure they have a wasted money, and have 1 bad review in a likely sea of reviews. A possibly insignificant digit. Yet, if the company is accurately called out, if Amazon are accurately called out, we may see real change.

I assume we blame you because it's easy. "Don't dodge taxes!" we scream. Yet, it's our laziness that enables tax dodgers due to ultimately ignoring and not fixing the root problems.

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Is there an easy way to comparison shop on Amazon? I saw ads for chrome extensions but I don't know if they are good.

I've been happily using the Camelizer for years: https://camelcamelcamel.com/ You can visit the site and/or install a plugin.

Been using the Camelizer for years! It's a great tool.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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So you just helped continue the fraud? Things aren't gonna improve by complaining on HN.

There's no point in debating the moral issues when our world is anything but. It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy. In this particular situation the interaction was between me and the seller. Reviews are written, edited, removed by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers.

Why not just leave the honest review up?

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Not really. He bought the product from someone else. If Amazon didn't need the money and just wanted the analytics, it would have undercut the physical store. The value of the analytics would be in the sale to another company to market to this person, but they fulfilled their need for the product when Amazon acquired the information. So it didn't benefit Amazon and by the time they could have sold it to a third-party…

Simply by looking at a product will build a user profile. It's not about making this sale, but maybe about the next 100 sales.

Sure, but money isn't quantum physics. If he doesn't spend any money on Amazon or any other online retailer, how are they monetizing his time on the site?

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What is the problem about the link being from Fox News?

Fox has a serious reputation for conservative bias

The rest of the media is the opposite, and they get linked all the time.

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There's no point in debating the moral issues when our world is anything but. It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy. In this particular situation the interaction was between me and the seller. Reviews are written, edited, removed by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers.

> by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers Yet you feel jaded by the other reviewers. You don't owe me anything, but I would encourage you to go back and leave a negative review if the product isn't worth the price. I'm in the market for a cooking knife and would appreciate good reviews. Thanks.

If you just need a small set, I highly recommend the Wusthof Studio set. I got mine for under $100 and they work really well.
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