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Small shops manage to operate in, say, Arizona during those hours. That said, I think Spain's hours are a more natural adaptation to the climate than Arizona's.
Go into a restaurant or small shop during the 3 hours between 2pm and 5pm, and you can see they might as well be closed (generally). Restaurants refer to those hours specifically as "dead hours" in my experience.
Say Goodbye to Spain's Three-Hour Lunch Break
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Until recently, most Arizonans also grew English-style grass lawns, with water that had to be piped in and species that are certainly not native. Apparently that's rapidly ending, so maybe the standard schedule will change as well someday.
> Apparently that's rapidly ending, so maybe the standard schedule will change as well someday. Those hours are pretty ingrained in US culture, though, and virtually no one (compared to the present population) would live in Arizona without massive amounts of air conditioning anyway, whereas conserving water has a direct economic advantage in the here and now.
I presume you mean south of Flagstaff. It's actually quite nice in the north :)
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> Literally nobody here takes 3 hour lunch breaks. A lot of offices have 2 hours, yeah, but this is becoming less and less common regardless. Is that because nobody likes to, or because pressures for employers and economic conformity forces them? That this is "becoming less and less common" (implying it was indeed common) speaks to the latter.
Nobody wants to. In fact, doing no lunch break is considered a privilege. Nobody wants to work from 9AM to 8PM, even if you have three break hours at lunch. That's time you lose for being with family, friends...
Some people like it, because it lets you eat and take a short nap and rest, but then you have to go back to work, which is a pretty big downside.
However, we don't consider it a lunch break here, we consider it as having to work two shorter shifts per day.
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Arizona is in the car-centric USA. You walk straight from your car with AC into a shop with AC via the shortest path possible. Spain, like most Europe is a lot more pedestrian/cyclist friendly and I'd imagine that traffic drops off a lot during the heat of the day. I live in Canada which isn't anything near as hot as Arizona or Spain and I walk/cycle everywhere and I specifically avoid going anywhere from 11am-2pm in…
Is 11-2 really the hottest part of your day? That may be when the sun is highest in the sky, but usually the hottest temperatures of the day are closer to late afternoon.
I'd take 37 C air in the shade over 35 C in the midday sun any time.
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Try to go out with 45 degrees, with direct sunlight, etc. Some people will even faint within minutes. Because remember you don't get teleported to the shop, you have to walk.
As they say about Phoenix, "it's a dry heat". It's near 20% humidity during peak sunlight during the day. I've been there in really hot summer weather and I was surprised by how really high temperatures didn't feel as hot as I was expecting. To give you an idea of how much this matters, in a gentle breeze, 39.5 C at 20% humidity feels like 57.3 C at 90% humidity. People definitely don't faint within minutes in a typi…
That cannot possibly be correct.
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> Literally nobody here takes 3 hour lunch breaks. A lot of offices have 2 hours, yeah, but this is becoming less and less common regardless. Is that because nobody likes to, or because pressures for employers and economic conformity forces them? That this is "becoming less and less common" (implying it was indeed common) speaks to the latter.
Nobody wants to. In fact, doing no lunch break is considered a privilege. Nobody wants to work from 9AM to 8PM, even if you have three break hours at lunch. That's time you lose for being with family, friends...
Only the regular course of modern business, is not to give back the lunch break time to family/friends, but for the companies to have you work 9 to 7 or 8 just without the break.
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Nobody wants to. In fact, doing no lunch break is considered a privilege. Nobody wants to work from 9AM to 8PM, even if you have three break hours at lunch. That's time you lose for being with family, friends...
We have the 3 hour lunch break here too (Greece), and yes, it is extremely inconvenient. It means you have to do your commute twice, and that you lose the whole day. Some people like it, because it lets you eat and take a short nap and rest, but then you have to go back to work, which is a pretty big downside. However, we don't consider it a lunch break here, we consider it as having to work two shorter shifts per da…
That, in Greece and elsewhere where it happens, is usually a habit from an earlier era, when most city businesses were small and/or family owned, retail stores and the like, and people lived in neighborhoods next to their business. So they would just close the store, had lunch or a nap etc at the house, and come back open for business again at the afternoon.
The current situation is a regression, and not because of the remnants of the "3 hour break": commutes and/or major traffic, and offices that demand people stay late without major breaks, so you get the same 8-9pm to late shift, working constantly (and then having to commute back).
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#199I lost the count of times that I had to explain here in UK than we Spaniards don't go home to take a nap every day at lunch time. Nowadays this 3 hours break mainly affect the small shops instead of offices/big companies. And, being honest, was quite useful since shops closing at 8 pm allow people doing their shopping chores when leaving the office/school/uni... Edit: My English... U_U'
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#200Literally nobody here takes 3 hour lunch breaks. A lot of offices have 2 hours, yeah, but this is becoming less and less common regardless. Small shops do close for 3 hours in the middle of the day, but they are open till about 9pm which is a lot more useful than being open in the middle of the day. It also should be noted that there are actually 5 meals in a spaniard's day. There's a mid-morning and late-afternoon s…
> It gets dark at 6pm in the winter and 10pm in the summer I dont think its natural anywhere in the world. What time is sunrise during winter?