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Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by nraynaud »

weberc2 wrote: post #52
dna_polymerase wrote: post #45

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They might get higher numbers, but they are paid in Dollar which is less worth than Euro, also everything is more expensive there than it is here, especially rent and food.

Rent is far cheaper in the U.S. My last apartment was $450/month for 600 sq ft in a good neighborhood. I paid $650 for less than half of that in rural France. Food is probably cheaper too, though not as dramatically. I'm sure there are lots of perks to living in Europe, but rent is not among them.

Strange, to me it's the converse experience, my appartement in downtown Montpellier, is cheaper and bigger than my girlfriend's appartement in south Scottsdale, AZ.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by toyg »

nraynaud wrote: post #177
zmb_ wrote: post #175

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> the ability to speak half decent French After having lived and worked in multiple EU countries, I'm convinced that language is the single biggest barrier to true freedom of movement of workers in the EU. In Germany, for example, you cannot assume any daily task can be accomplished without the German language. You're then faced with either constantly dealing with communication problems with everything in your life,…

Yep, but the Brits are were pain in the butt so we decided not to use English for that role, because that would be rewarding a kid for throwing his feces at a party. When they are gone, I guess the discussion could be re-opened.

It won't and it shouldn't. The French will never, ever agree to anything that officially places their language on a lower level. They might accept de-facto lingua franca status for English, but they'll never sign anything that mandates it or recognises it. Discussing language is a recipe for pointless strife; the next step really should be taxation standards.

This said, the market is adjusting on its own. EU customers are voting with their wallets, and the more they move around, the more English-speaking cross-border businesses flourish.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by 4c2383f5c88e911 »

Majestic121 wrote: post #140
rockinghigh wrote: post #136

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This cannot be true. I have multiple bank accounts in France and never had to do this.

It really depends on the bank, I had to change accounts as well when I was with Credit Agricole, but all is fine and dandy since I am with Boursorama

Well, Crédit Agricole is kind of a special case, at it was initially for farmers and the like (which do not usually move), and has a heavy reliance on local branches. Although I remember my parents having an account there and not having that issue after moving on the other side of the country.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by reacweb »

nraynaud wrote: post #176
corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

For the record, I have not emitted a check in France for at least the past 10 years. I might have cashed one or two.

You have not child at school.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by reacweb »

tajen wrote: post #173
corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

At least 20% of French people express capitalism-hostile opinions (and it goes well beyond Mélenchon voters). You face hostility as soon as you make money, with consequences ranging from being denied places in the kindergarten to the "petit Gregory" affair where the 5 years old son of a newly promoted team leader was drowned. I'm trying to show off as much as I can that I'm sponsoring poverty, donating a lot, making…

I am french. I do not understand why you have been moded down.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by rorykoehler »

peteretep wrote: post #182
rorykoehler wrote: post #115

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On top of this Macron wants to ban encryption (just like May in the UK). It all sounds like lip service and bluster from here.

Last time I asked for a source on this it was him agreeing with a tangential talking point of May's. Can you source this more comprehensively?

You should google it for more infos. Here is a quote from the man himself:

"If I am elected, France will launch a major initiative beginning this summer targeting the major Internet providers, so that they agree to the legal seizure of data from their encrypted services as part of the fight against terrorism"

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by arethuza »

peteretep wrote: post #186
GuiA wrote: post #118

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Yeah that's the big debate, isn't it? Is a 4 years anglophone BSc equivalent to a 3 years european Licence, or 5 years Master? When I was applying to grad schools in the US, my French undergrad was not recognized as a proper undergrad - it had to be a 5 year Master (I snuck around that restriction by spending a year in the UK and getting a british BSc). But of course, French institutions consider 4 years american deg…

Most UK BScs are 3 years (aren't they?), so Anglophone is misleading

Yes, most but not all, Scotland has 4 year first degrees for courses that would be 3 years in England and Wales (I don't know about NI).

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by nraynaud »

reacweb wrote: post #194
nraynaud wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the record, I have not emitted a check in France for at least the past 10 years. I might have cashed one or two.

You have not child at school.

oh, yeah, I see how that could be an issue. Our schools are really holding us back.

Re: Welcoming Tech Talent from Around the World to France

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Post by _kyran »

tajen wrote: post #173
corford wrote: post #46

It looks great on paper but the devil will be in the detail and how well they execute on the admin/bureaucracy side. If my experience a few years ago with the auto entrepreneur scheme and URSAFF are anything to go by, you'll need a lot of patience, the ability to speak half decent French and a sense of humour if you want to avoid ripping all your hair out :) I love France (have even married one of their citizens!) bu…

At least 20% of French people express capitalism-hostile opinions (and it goes well beyond Mélenchon voters). You face hostility as soon as you make money, with consequences ranging from being denied places in the kindergarten to the "petit Gregory" affair where the 5 years old son of a newly promoted team leader was drowned. I'm trying to show off as much as I can that I'm sponsoring poverty, donating a lot, making…

This is true. I've spent the past couple of months in various areas of France.

I can't speak for all ages, but the youth are incredibly passionate about politics and many hold strong anti capitalism beliefs and will enthusiastically riot at the chance to have their opinions heard.

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