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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by enra »

Houshalter wrote: post #86

Maybe they could compete on having a better extension system. Chrome extensions are absolutely awful. Every single one I've ever used has had some kind of serious bug, often deal breaking. I could easily fix many of them, but there is no method to do so. Let alone fork it or submit a pull request. You can't even load your own extensions, and you have to pay money to submit them to the web store. A scary percentage of…

You can easily your own extensions in Chrome by clicking the "Load unpacked extension" which can be just a folder from your computer that has a manifest.json file in. You can also easily inspect the extensions that you have installed with the chrome developer tools, ie. copy them and fix them if needed.

If anything, I'd say my experience between the Chrome and Firefox extensions are completely opposite to yours. For one, Firefox has some 1-3 different extension types/apis, so you have first understand which one to use from their convoluted developer docs. Secondly, when you submit the extension, some volunteer "reviews" it whenever they have the time, which can take days to weeks. Once I got feedback and got rejected because there was a typo in the extension.

With Chrome it's very easy to create an extension, you basically only need that manifest.json file and then you can submit it to the store and it's online less than an hour.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by digitalshankar »

If there's anything i can trust in the web it's none other than Mozilla Firefox.

Google Chrome is not Open Source and your privacy is not guaranteed, you don't know what's happening under the hood.

Please wait for the Servo project to complete, then you'll know who won.

Mozilla Firefox is not just a browser, it's the community of freedom, it's what I have grown up with. Finally Firefox with Ublock Origin is just enough to enjoy the Web. #MozillaFirefoxMasterRace

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by grogenaut »

mnm1 wrote: post #53

"All browsers work pretty well, and being slightly faster or using slightly less memory is unlikely to sway users." Faster browsing and less memory use is the only reason I've ever heard anyone switch browsers outside of privacy issues. If Servo is significantly faster and uses less memory, and if it can keep that up for years like Chrome did, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this flipping in a few years. Thankf…

Most of my non-tech friends really don't know what ram is or how to check the usage. And they're not the type to actually do repeatable measurement to know if it's actually faster or not. Tech users are I'd be 10% of the total browser user base these days. So I doubt your statement having any sway on these numbers.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by petre »

candiodari wrote: post #170
gkoberger wrote: post #51

I agree with this blog post. But I don't think Mozilla lost. I worked for Mozilla for a few years, after seeing John Lily (CEO at the time) speak. It was right after Chrome started getting popular, and a smug person in the crowd asked him about how he felt about Chrome. John's response was awesome. "This is the web that we wanted. We exist not because we want everyone to use Firefox, but because we wanted people to h…

Firefox is the only android browser with ad-blocking plugins enabled. That makes it the only usable browser on mobile. Sucks that they don't have an IOS version, but Apple is the problem there, not Mozilla.

Count Opera in. It has integrated ad blocking.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by taf2 »

JoshMnem wrote: post #164

Firefox took marketshare from IE when that was impossible. It could do it again with Chrome, if things change a bit. Some problems with Mozilla are that they don't do community management well any more. In the old days, there were amazing grassroots-driven projects like spreadfirefox.com. It is not like that any more. Grassroots supporters have trouble participating, even if they try. For example, I tried to create a…

The thing is chrome is an open source browser with a lot of really smart people working to make it better everyday . IE, was none of theses things when Firefox came into the market. You also have to remember many of the core developers who built Firefox went on to build Chrome. And then even many of developers that built IE went on to work on chrome. In 2007, they had pulled together an amazing team to kick off the browser that is now chrome. IMO - Mozilla should use blink and be the privacy focused browser.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by grizzles »

swiley wrote: post #160
grizzles wrote: post #105

Judged on it's own mission statement, Mozilla has failed as an organization, and that's been clear for at least the last 5 years. The two biggest internet trends over the last decade have been app store distribution of mobile apps and the social graph. Mozilla has did little, maybe nothing to make either of those open and accessible to all. This is due to an ongoing lack of vision and leadership for an organization t…

I'm pretty glad Mozilla avoided both of those. They where probably some of the most unpleasant fads of the past decade. It's nice to have a company that isn't pushing them as an alternative to those that are.

They are not fads. Both are still growing strongly.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by ajdlinux »

cbryan wrote: post #112
lewisl9029 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed that Mozilla's original mission has been accomplished in spades, but I wouldn't count Mozilla out of the browser race just yet. Servo and Webrender[0] will completely shake up the browser landscape, and will allow web apps to match (maybe even surpass?) native mobile apps in terms of rendering performance. Unless Chrome, IE, and Safari can develop an answer to Servo and Webrender by the time those technologies…

The problem with your point is that it assumes users' are using Chrome because of its rendering speed. I don't think that's the case.

I think it's different now, but when I first switched to Chrome it was absolutely because of performance.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by f4rker »

Google has integration. My CC info, address, passwords - all stored in the google cloud. I trust google. I dont trust Mozilla or FF with the same info.

Mozilla is a browser company - and not that good of one. Mz is trying to be PC, trendy hip internet human rights hipster bullshit. I dont care about any of this from my browser company

Google makes products that work well.

i made an addon for chrome and FF. submitting and updating to google is worlds easier and faster. extensions updates go live in 30min or so. i think my FF addon update will be finally approved in 2 weeks or so.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by roca »

andreasgal wrote: post #171
aplummer wrote: post #42

I disagree with the horse / car metaphor. Each platform is different, radio or TV is a better metaphor for still being popular but different. I highly doubt PCs will be relegated to a novelty few dozen in a cities.

Roc has a similar comment in the comment section. I agree and disagree. Desktop PCs will be around, but the vast majority of interaction minutes will be on mobile (and maybe in the future elsewhere). Most of the 6bn people or so who arrived online once the Web took off don't have PCs, and don't need it. Its a geographic/infrastructure issue (lots of LTE in Africa and Asia but no landlines etc), and also a generationa…

My kids are in school. Their peers aren't doing homework on their phones.
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