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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by Deimorz »

zzzzz_ wrote: post #16

Reddit is technology wise pretty simple - it's just one step up from a forum. So these guys have re-implemented a forum and added a stack of features that only a bunch of devs could come up with. Markdown support is mentioned twice at the top of the features list! Anyway this is a site by actual guys that used to work at Reddit so you'd expect them to be pretty smart business orientated chaps right? Well they launch,…

> Anyway this is a site by actual guys that used to work at Reddit so you'd expect them to be pretty smart business orientated chaps right?

These aren't ex-reddit employees. The linked article calling them "former Redditors" is pretty misleading, I think it was just trying to say that they used to be users of the site.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by yladiz »

I'm not sure if I'm in the minority, but for a lot of content I ingest (news, video) I don't have an account, or actively use one, on the service. The only time I create an account is if I find the benefits of creating an account are more than just visiting the service without an account. For example, I keep an account on Youtube because I want to keep playlists and I don't mind if they have my watch history as a result, but I don't keep an account on Reddit because I just casually browse it without really participating (primarily because I feel like most of the discussion, by the time I see it, is something I can't add to, as opposed to a place like HN). And so for me, if this site is registration only, I don't see a point if it is only to make it real time and a "Reddit alternative" unless it's significantly better, but the most important part of Reddit is the community aspect, which is hard to replicate.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by pvnick »

orthecreedence wrote: post #182
pvnick wrote: post #86

Best of luck. Reddit needs a good kick in the arse. Since shortly before Steve Huffman's (Spez) return, Reddit has adopted a policy of top-down content curation - banning controversial subreddits, changing the voting algorithm to dis-favor /r/the_donald, and most recently introducing /r/popular which is basically /r/all without that pesky /r/the_donald subreddit (ffs just man up and ban the group rather than pretendi…

T_D is a cesspool. It's like /r/conspiracy went full Saiyan. Nobody wants to see that shit.

Ok but that's not the point I was making.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by aphextron »

mintplant wrote: post #184
pavel_lishin wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The community there is simply too toxic and I've had to quit it. Which community? There are thousands of subreddits. Are you talking about the people who use the default front-page subreddits?

There are thousands of subreddits, sure, but still you end up with an identifiable overarching "reddit" culture. There are subreddits that don't share this, due to strong moderation, small size, or niche/polarizing subject matter. But in most subreddits, mentioning a broken limb, for example, will inevitably generate a low-effort allusion to a certain gross story that is prominent in the collective memory of the site…

This is pretty much dead on why I avoid reddit

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by awalton »

wand3r wrote: post #168
nailer wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an account, and am unsubscribed from subreddits I do not like. There's no way to visit /r/all without seeing all the political hate, creepypasta, and violence.

I hate Reddit; but what you've brought up is simply a feature not a bug: > /r/all It includes all the subreddit potentially; that's the point. Make a metareddit if you want tighter control; or tailor your FP

And once you've spent all of that time making reddit meaningful... there's virtually no new content, because you realize that the site is basically an echo chamber (not that HackerNews is much better in this regard, but eh.)

Reddit was done once they refused to put the jackboot to the hate communities over fears of the Digg-like user revolt, letting them fester and take over other subreddits. It's literally impossible to go a day on reddit without running into some racist diatribe, even if you go to the far-flunged reaches. Even /r/linux is completely unreadable.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by wand3r »

awalton wrote: post #196
wand3r wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate Reddit; but what you've brought up is simply a feature not a bug: > /r/all It includes all the subreddit potentially; that's the point. Make a metareddit if you want tighter control; or tailor your FP

And once you've spent all of that time making reddit meaningful... there's virtually no new content, because you realize that the site is basically an echo chamber (not that HackerNews is much better in this regard, but eh.) Reddit was done once they refused to put the jackboot to the hate communities over fears of the Digg-like user revolt, letting them fester and take over other subreddits. It's literally impossibl…

We have different opinions, but the same conclusion. I haven't found Reddit relavent in years and they still don't turn a profit.

Nothing against it or regular users, just not for me anymore

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by danso »

flamedoge wrote: post #186
danso wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been a frequent Reddit user for 7+ years. I honestly don't remember the last time I've ever been to r/all except when some massive drama hits and I want to see what the fuss is about. I'm subscribed to dozens of subreddits so my default homepage is never wanting for interesting content. Because I've unsubscribed from r/news, r/worldnews, r/politics, I never see Reddit discussions on the news of the day. On the o…

you seek drama and you don't mention r/drama?

Ironically I hadn't even realized that r/drama existed until at some point I noticed it being mentioned in r/subredditdrama threads. I'm not sure what the history between those 2 subs is (r/subredditdrama has 270K subscribers vs. r/drama's 32K). But r/drama seems to involve a lot more shitposting and personal-scale conflicts, e.g. a Prius driver having a history of anal-retentive commentary. Whereas r/subredditdrama is for when an entire forum goes apeshit. Or at least several impassioned commenters.

I think the difference in quality is actually more of a testament to how the mods run the community, even though both r/drama and r/subredditdrama have large overlap. But the latter seems to have instituted a culture of determined understatement, so threads have titles like "A visitor to /r/JapanTravel is adrift after he discovers that Japanese girls don't care about him". Whereas r/drama's current top post points to a Twitter account and has the title, "Orange ameriburger goes full retard...again"

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by testertesttest »

castis wrote: post #183
pvnick wrote: post #86

Best of luck. Reddit needs a good kick in the arse. Since shortly before Steve Huffman's (Spez) return, Reddit has adopted a policy of top-down content curation - banning controversial subreddits, changing the voting algorithm to dis-favor /r/the_donald, and most recently introducing /r/popular which is basically /r/all without that pesky /r/the_donald subreddit (ffs just man up and ban the group rather than pretendi…

Removing T_D would result in an insane amount of backlash that I'm sure they don't want to put up with. If you have to have a cancer, better to know where it is and keep tabs on it that risk spreading it out.

It's funny how many people here claim to support "the free exchange of ideas" but forget to mention the caveat "only if I like them".

It's almost like there's a bunch of gaslighting that makes it okay, regardless of opinion, to modify voting algorithms to promote certain political opinions.

FYI this is the behavior the brown shirts exhibited. We're not so far from those times again.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by bmm6o »

fapjacks wrote: post #190
mintplant wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are thousands of subreddits, sure, but still you end up with an identifiable overarching "reddit" culture. There are subreddits that don't share this, due to strong moderation, small size, or niche/polarizing subject matter. But in most subreddits, mentioning a broken limb, for example, will inevitably generate a low-effort allusion to a certain gross story that is prominent in the collective memory of the site…

Maybe, but isn't that more generally culture's fault and not Reddit's fault?

A site can do something about its users' behavior more easily than they can do something about the larger culture.
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