I hope the search in gitter-chanels gets better now, cause of open-sourcing it. There are good infos and tips hidden. Maybe tags or upvotes would solve this.
GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
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Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#192Somewhat off topic, but I was once very interested in working for GitLab. According to their compensation calculator, though, I'd be making less than half what I make now (also working remotely). They ding me for living in a comparatively low cost area. I'm surprised they are able to attract talent to achieve what they have done so far. It makes me worry somewhat about my future prospects in an increasingly globalize…
They're not really able to attract much talent. Look through the LinkedIn of some of the GitLab people. A lot of them are very junior (this is the first "real job" for one guy I looked up), and they, rather clearly, have an amateur leadership team, as exhibited by their recent spectacular failures, their underwhelming commentary on remote team management, their naive idealistic implementation of "radical transparency…
That's one hell of a pessimistic view if I've ever seen one.
What I see is an brilliantly managed company despite having a globally distributed team, which has a great pace of development, which is carving a nice market share in an extremely tough market (developers) and against a fierce competitor (Github), let alone the other multibillion company backed Bitbucket.
And their radical transparency, as you put it, is a fascinating thing in and of itself. If anything it makes me feel intimate with the company. Hard to put it in words, maybe because I was a rather early adopter but if you follow them closely it's a like you're there on their board with spectator mode on. That's some invaluable experience for HN crowd.
Are we even talking about the same company?!
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Idea: put the performance plots from tickets on https://arewefastyet.gitlab.com Mozilla does this to great effect: http://www.arewefastyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/ http://www.arewewebyet.org/
Great idea! We've just forwarded http://arewefastyet.gitlab.com/ to http://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/fleet-overview This doesn't show all the graphs we need to show like 99th percentile request latency but that will come when we add Unicorn support to Prometheus.
Awesome! :D
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you actualy used Gitlab? I can't say they are becoming bloated, because they services are of high quality? Have you tried their CI/CD? Github is stagnating. Yeah, they are industry standard, but competition is best thing that can happen to them and users. I haven't seen them promoting that hard as you describe. I wrote my comment of the pure satisfaction with their services and my use case. So stop being ignoran…
Have you actualy used Gitlab? I can't say they are becoming bloated, because they services are of high quality? Have you tried their CI/CD? Github is stagnatingn. Yeah, they are industry standard, but competition is best thing that can happen to them and users. I have. I've installed Gitlab and Mattermost on my own server. Gitlab is great but I found Slack was a better product (over Mattermost). Have you tried instal…
Hi @aaron-lebo,
Mattermost team here, would welcome any feedback on how we could improve.
Here's a demo of Mattermost features vs Slack as FYI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKqHWqrAgpk
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Idea: put the performance plots from tickets on https://arewefastyet.gitlab.com Mozilla does this to great effect: http://www.arewefastyet.com/ https://areweslimyet.com/ http://www.arewewebyet.org/
Great idea! We've just forwarded http://arewefastyet.gitlab.com/ to http://monitor.gitlab.net/dashboard/db/fleet-overview This doesn't show all the graphs we need to show like 99th percentile request latency but that will come when we add Unicorn support to Prometheus.
This is the reason we love you guys, clear communication and caring for what people have to say. Keep doing that and we'll keep loving you. :D
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
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Hi Matt, I am the recruiter at GL, I've reviewed your case, and I wanted to follow up personally. I'd like to address your concern and explain our process. Since the time of your interview, we have changed the process of discussing compensation within the first 15 minutes of a conversation to the end of a phone call. We understand it's uncomfortable and sometimes awkward to talk pay when you've just met someone. Hope…
This response is quite in the style of the Yelp/TripAdvisor response to a negative review. A thin veneer of consolation around an attempt to save face.
Agreed, the underlying process is still there.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#197Somewhat off topic, but I was once very interested in working for GitLab. According to their compensation calculator, though, I'd be making less than half what I make now (also working remotely). They ding me for living in a comparatively low cost area. I'm surprised they are able to attract talent to achieve what they have done so far. It makes me worry somewhat about my future prospects in an increasingly globalize…
They're not really able to attract much talent. Look through the LinkedIn of some of the GitLab people. A lot of them are very junior (this is the first "real job" for one guy I looked up), and they, rather clearly, have an amateur leadership team, as exhibited by their recent spectacular failures, their underwhelming commentary on remote team management, their naive idealistic implementation of "radical transparency…
Um ok. What's actually wrong with the product? Why is it not "well-engineered"? All the things you said could be true, yet their product is amazing. I haven't used it, but I like what I'm seeing.
So what if a smart experienced developer (their CTO) is able to get good prices on what he/she wants done through remote work? The point you're making is negativity for no reason without evidence on how it's not working, i.e. what's wrong with their product.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're not really able to attract much talent. Look through the LinkedIn of some of the GitLab people. A lot of them are very junior (this is the first "real job" for one guy I looked up), and they, rather clearly, have an amateur leadership team, as exhibited by their recent spectacular failures, their underwhelming commentary on remote team management, their naive idealistic implementation of "radical transparency…
I can't be bothered to bother that GitLab has junior people, even to the extend that it's the first "real job" for some of them. We hire people for their first "real job" all the time -- someone has to!
Of course, the problem is not that some people are junior. The problem is that most people are junior, because, ironically, unless you live in one of the most expensive cities on the planet, their compensation is not commensurate with what an experienced developer can make in any first-world market.
When you have an inexperienced crew running your tech, you get a lot of very preventable issues, which sometimes approach apocalyptic scale (like GitLab's February data loss). That's fine for some businesses, but it shouldn't be fine for something as important as GitLab.
Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#199This appears more like a acqui-hire. Also, since mattermost is bundled as part of GitLab, it makes me wonder why they didn't acquire mattermost instead. This is good though because mattermost is open-source only on paper. They refuse to integrate important features even when people contribute code (to protect their commercial version). Third, people see GitLab as GitHub competitor. But really it competes with Atlassi…
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Re: GitLab acquires Gitter, will open-source the code
#200Hah, nice. Love it, love it that a whole business can run on free/open source and selling hosting/support.