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How did you two meet? At work?
We met online, her profile and interests where a mirror image of mine, same films, same music, same outlook even the same books. The only disagreement was over whether 2001 or Bladerunner should hold the top spot on best films, I maintain 2001, she maintains Bladerunner.
You have a personality disorder. Please see a psychiatrist.
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You have a personality disorder. Please see a psychiatrist.
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Oh, I have seen several psychiatrists and psychologists and counselors over the years. They're generally pleasant but useless people, though a couple of them provided perspectives and comments that were useful at the time. The biggest help has been that I no longer value social acceptance so highly. It's terrible, I know. Feel free to call me an obnoxious asshole if it helps you. Several have and I've survived.
Can you just stop with the "me me me" show for a minute?
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> Truthfully, I've found that the real difference in intelligence between people isn't so large as many people think it is. Well, I've read many very convincing arguments that it is (including statistics pertaining to how children perform in school, with which I have my own problems, but which nonetheless need to be accounted for), how have you found that it is not?
First off, IQ has been shown to potentially change quite significantly over long periods of time. Second, IQ is a very specific measure, it basically only deals with how good you are at performing symbol manipulation in working memory. Creative intelligence is far more important in my opinion but that isn't measured because we don't really have any idea how to do so. We all have a fairly similar brains, some people's…
Do you have a source on this? There's the case of childrens' IQ varying over time, but it appears to stabilize once people reach adulthood. Are there actual records of adults' IQ going 110 -> 120 -> 90 without some highly botched test involved?
> Second, IQ is a very specific measure, it basically only deals with how good you are at performing symbol manipulation in working memory.
This is not really informative without expanding on IQ's correlation to other things and how important something like this is to a given person when multiplied on their entire lifespan. IQ seems to be fairly relevant to being able to quickly solve certain styles of problems - I would say that's pretty significant.
> We all have a fairly similar brains, some people's are organized slightly more efficiently for certain tasks, but that doesn't mean they're more efficient for everything, in fact it is quite like likely the opposite.
If there's such a thing as being more or less efficient at something, there's enough variation that there will be cases where one is efficient in a good combination and one is efficient in a bad combination. Such a difference will matter for a sufficiently competitive environment.
Unfortunately, I generally found that while there's a very large amount of people who don't believe that IQ is important, most of the good and sourced arguments seem to be on the other side and I'm scrambling to find any solid rebuttal on the subject.
I.e., https://www.gwern.net/iq
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> As a public figure, it wasn't worth burning my reputation to type this out Why? > It's tiring as hell to live this life. So don't live it. In your opening sentence you say you must hide your identity and in your last sentence you say it is tiring to live like that. So don't hide behind the "mask of sanity" and then you don't need to be tired. It won't be easy, but nothing worthwhile is.
Thing to understand is, if you tell someone you are a sociopath they dissociate with you more or less immediately. I know this because it happened about two weeks ago. I was with a group of friends and we were discussing things and I brought the topic up to see what their response was. It was generally met with "no way you aren't," "only serial killers are like that" etc... but in the end the whole thing just became…
So? Why shouldn't they?
> So it's not in my long term interest to be open about that fact.
If you're not willing to be up front with people then it's disingenuous to complain about it being tiring. You say you deliberately manipulate people but that you're also unwilling to change that. You're making a deliberate choice. If you refuse to make a different choice then there's no point complaining.
Every time I read one of these articles about genius and madness, I become smug for a little while, then I get depressed because I realize that I haven't accomplished anything noteworthy, then I'm mildly reassured because occasionally my wife will spontaneously aver (contrary to all expectation) that I am a genius, then I get distracted and start chasing some ideas, then I get depressed again because, well, shit, I s…
If you accomplish some great work of genius, but no one can understand it, what then?
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First off, IQ has been shown to potentially change quite significantly over long periods of time. Second, IQ is a very specific measure, it basically only deals with how good you are at performing symbol manipulation in working memory. Creative intelligence is far more important in my opinion but that isn't measured because we don't really have any idea how to do so. We all have a fairly similar brains, some people's…
> First off, IQ has been shown to potentially change quite significantly over long periods of time. Do you have a source on this? There's the case of childrens' IQ varying over time, but it appears to stabilize once people reach adulthood. Are there actual records of adults' IQ going 110 -> 120 -> 90 without some highly botched test involved? > Second, IQ is a very specific measure, it basically only deals with how g…
To the extent that you end up deriving your pleasure and livelihood from abstract symbol manipulation, IQ is important. IQ does matter a lot when you're first learning to do something, but as you master tasks the importance drops. A study on the correlation between chess performance and IQ showed that IQ only predicted chess ability in novices.
I agree that some people have natural proclivities that better match the structure of society. That is an unfortunate side effect of diversity under a fixed system.
I am not arguing that IQ isn't important, but is possible to improve it (regardless of our knowledge as to the process) and beyond a certain basic level it is much less important than creativity - a fact that is only going to become more true with computer automation.
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Oh, I have seen several psychiatrists and psychologists and counselors over the years. They're generally pleasant but useless people, though a couple of them provided perspectives and comments that were useful at the time. The biggest help has been that I no longer value social acceptance so highly. It's terrible, I know. Feel free to call me an obnoxious asshole if it helps you. Several have and I've survived.
> The biggest help has been that I no longer value social acceptance so highly. Sure you do- hence your performance, hence your need to reply to me. I suspect you expected a reply in the vein of mine. EDIT: i reply => a reply
It's not okay to throw about psychiatric diagnoses, especially ones which are so heavily stigmatised, in an argument just because you dislike someone.
It says a lot about you that you think it's ok.
For anyone who is interested in personality disorder a good source of information is Meeting the challenge, making a difference - http://www.emergenceplus.org.uk/news-from-emergence/507-meet...