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Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by nazka »

dxhdr wrote: post #120
nnd wrote: post #11

Even though Facebook by itself doesn't seem to provide much value anymore, it's incredible how much of a platform lock-in the have. For example, Facebook login becoming essentially a universal identity provider. The worst thing is even when you create a new account under a different name they still manage to track you down, and start suggesting adding friends from the old account. I wonder how they do this, by tracki…

It's interesting how identifiable you are just by compounding information provided by the browser: https://amiunique.org/fp Browser fingerprint plus IP and/or geo location and I'd think you could get a fairly accurate guess of who you are.

Interesting link. You can go even deeper with more data like resolution of your screen etc... And almost be able to track someone. It's kind of crazy.

There is a JS project based on that and that gives you an ID based on the fingerprint. [1]

[1] https://github.com/Valve/fingerprintjs2

Edit: I just saw that the link provide even more data like this. Just my list of font is a > 99.9% of uniqueness. Multiplied by all the other likelihood, it's getting close to having the signature of every person on internet.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by mmagin »

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Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by olkid »

Arizhel wrote: post #148
olkid wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe there is room for a private social network that is peer-to-peer, encrypted, with no central servers and an open spec. It would make my world a better place, but I don't think it can be monetized. (Maybe donations? non-profit?) Also, privacy breaks down when you run a client on Windows 8 or above. :-( I think a lot of tough computer science challenges are inherit in this model. And yes, there is the network…

>I believe there is room for a private social network that is peer-to-peer, encrypted, with no central servers and an open spec. We already have this. It's called "Diaspora". It's a great idea using all the things you talk about: decentralized, peer-to-peer, etc. No one uses it. >but I don't require mainstream adoption to use it. Then I encourage you to set up your own Diaspora account. Maybe if enough people do so,…

hmmmm... Diaspora would fit my (paranoid) requirements if every account was hosted in a unique pod on the local device. But, that's just me.

Diaspora is many steps in the right direction and looks like a great alternative to fb. (Slightly disappointing to see support for non-privacy oriented social networks being baked-in. I guess that's a strategic move.)

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by khedoros1 »

rhizome wrote: post #133
aantix wrote: post #98

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Strength of friendships in Germany can't be granular? Aren't there just people that have been good to you in the present or past, that you want to see succeed, that you want to root for? Those are the perfect candidates for Facebook.

Acquaintances? FOAFs? Former colleagues? A DJ you used to go see 20 years ago? In the US, all of these people get swept under the rug of "friends" in the FB era, and it's in this way that they are less granular if "friend" can mean just about anybody you've ever come across.

> In the US, all of these people get swept under the rug of "friends" in the FB era, and it's in this way that they are less granular if "friend" can mean just about anybody you've ever come across.

"FaceBook friend" maps roughly to "Anyone I have had some form of contact with and either don't actively hate, who says things I'm interested in hearing, or who I haven't gotten around to deleting". It's a completely distinct concept from "friend", in my mind. A FaceBook friend could be more accurately be described as a "contact", the way that I usually see it used.

I know some people who are deep in the FB Kool-Aid, or who label all acquaintances as "friends", but that doesn't accurately describe most of the people around me.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by alecco »

riebschlager wrote: post #93
afandian wrote: post #37

This is an excellent blog post, though it made me sick reading it. I recently made the switch. I went from trying to limit how much I log in (to once or twice a week), to actually not logging in. I've been cold-turkey for two months (except for a couple of times when I had a very specific reason to check something). I thought it would be difficult. Turns out it's not so hard, and it's the fear of reduced social conta…

I'm now over one year Facebook-free. As with most things (especially online things) I don't even remember why it was so appealing in the first place. The fear of missing out fades really fast. And as someone else mentioned in this thread, I feel like I value actual friendship a bit more. If anyone's interested in really ditching Facebook and preventing it from injecting junk into the sites you visit and tracking you,…

Good work. More here

https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklists/blob/master/corporatio...

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by H4CK3RM4N »

tdaltonc wrote: post #174

If you're looking to use Facebook less (but can't bring yourself to quit) I just launched a tool for that! http://youjustneedspace.com The iOS version is a web app because Apple rejected our native app. They said any app that encourages you to use your phone less is not appropriate for the app store.

Did you bring up the number of apps which either block a tone of sites with a simulated con or notify you until you reopen the app to keep you off you're phone?

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by Waterluvian »

olkid wrote: post #124
Waterluvian wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I flat out deleted Facebook (the hidden option that truly deletes you). Turned out to improve my social life. I focused on and nurtured the friendships that truly mattered to me.

the hidden option?

Well,the less obvious option I had to Google to find. It doesn't just set my account as inactive, it deletes it so that I no longer appear in friends lists as a referencabl e person.

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by alanfalcon »

rak00n wrote: post #161
alanfalcon wrote: post #146

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I like it. My wife subscribes to a service that will automatically print and mail her a small printed photo book for every X photos she favorites on her phone. It doesn't have the nice tagging and dates and notes, but it creates a chronological hard copy series of photo books that are great to have around, without requiring much forethought.

What's the service?

Chatbooks[1] - they're not glossy or high quality, but then a lot of the time the photos aren't either beyond the associated memories. And they're cheap so you don't have to stress over whether to hit the favorite button.

[1] https://chatbooks.com/favorite-photo-books/

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by platz »

devishard wrote: post #186
Kluny wrote: post #74

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> Turns out it's not so hard, and it's the fear of reduced social contact (or dopamine withdrawal more likely) that was stopping me. If you have a plan to replace the social interactions with other forms, you realise that the rest is just dross. This is the problem for me right now. I don't have a plan for replacing the social contact of facebook (and facebook isn't giving me anywhere close to what I need). I'm also…

I didn't have a plan for replacing the social contact of Facebook when I quit. I lost contact with a lot of people. But it turned out that most were acquaintances, not friends, and I could do without them. My acquaintances now are the people I see every day, the doormen and baristas I meet but don't become close with, and I find this means my acquaintances include more variety of people as a result. And the real frie…

Facebook prevented you from becoming acquaintences with doormen and baristas?

Re: What should you think about when using Facebook?

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Post by cylinder »

afandian wrote: post #37

This is an excellent blog post, though it made me sick reading it. I recently made the switch. I went from trying to limit how much I log in (to once or twice a week), to actually not logging in. I've been cold-turkey for two months (except for a couple of times when I had a very specific reason to check something). I thought it would be difficult. Turns out it's not so hard, and it's the fear of reduced social conta…

Just unfollow everyone, you won't have a feed. There's nothing to do on there without a feed and you won't miss anything. It takes some time to do it but it's worth it. I still login pretty much daily but leave quickly.
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