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Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by hobarrera »

jdbernard wrote: post #157
hobarrera wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3. Put down screens like phone, laptop, and TV after about 8pm. The artificial, bright light throws off off your body's natural instinct to get sleepy when it gets dark. What I am supposed to do during four hours with basically no media? That sound a bit extreme. 90 minutes of that ought to do. Oh, if you DO watch something (eg. movie), try an app like redshift, to reduce make the light blueish, which is what actua…

This is in the context of shifting your schedule towards being an early-riser, so I imagine you'd be going to bed at no later then 10pm, not much more than the 90 minutes you are thinking of.

"Early-riser" is sleeping from midnight to 0900hs for me. Not sure HOW early you're aiming at.

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by hobarrera »

maccard wrote: post #108
hobarrera wrote: post #83

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> But the truth is, it's perfectly possible for anyone to adjust their sleep schedule and become a morning person. It just takes some conscious effort and the will-power to suffer through a week or two of re-adjustment. That's not 100% true. I've done it, and deal with a couple of weeks of pain to realign my schedule. I then went to bed late ONCE, and slept late the following morning. My schedule had the re-sync'd ba…

> I then went to bed late ONCE, and slept late the following morning. My schedule had the re-sync'd back to it's original form, undoing three weeks of work. How long had you been doing the night owl schedule before that? You're trying to break a habit that you've been forming for years in a matter of weeks (for the record, I was a self proclaimed night owl until about a year ago)

> How long had you been doing the night owl schedule before that?

Probably for about 13 years (since I was ~16).

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by JamesBarney »

mi100hael wrote: post #73

> I am a night owl. You can tell me I have to have my butt in a chair within your line of sight at 8 or 9am, but that is very wasteful. This used to be me and I used to believe it was just the way things were. I'd naturally sleep 10+ hours until noon on the weekends, struggle to wake up for work, and then struggle to fall asleep before midnight. I had little energy for exercise and always felt stressed trying to find…

What you're describing is called "Delayed sleep phase disorder" and in some cases, like yours, it can be managed. However this depends on the severity so just remember not to judge someone who has tried and failed to align themselves with society's clock.[0]

You were able to align yourself using a couple of techniques, but missed out on some of the most potent which include

1. Melatonin

2. Blue light therapy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_sleep_phase_disorder

[0]Here's a relevant quote from Wikipedia "Depending on the severity, the symptoms can be managed to a greater or lesser degree, but no cure is known."

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by ChemicalWarfare »

cableshaft wrote: post #187
ChemicalWarfare wrote: post #129

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Most companies I've dealt with had some sort of "core hours" policy in place. Typically 8am - 4pm unless your job requires you to work with ppl in different time zones on a regular bases. Anything outside of that would require your manager's approval. 7-3 is typically not a major issue with the exception that you'll stay later if need be for meetings/P1s (although that's a different can of worms) etc.

I thought the idea behind core hours was supposed to be less than 8 hours, as it's time everyone is guaranteed to be there, with wiggle at the beginning and the end, not just 'these are your hours'. Like at a previous job, core hours was 10:00am to 4:00pm. Some people came in at 7:30am and left at 4:00pm, some people didn't get in until 10:00am and left at 6:30pm. But from 10 to 4, everyone was supposed to be there.

you're right. I should've went with 9-4 vs. 8-4. 10-4 is pretty generous, I personally never encountered a company with core hours officially starting after 9. That's not to say that I haven't encountered individuals showing up around 10 on a regular basis :)

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by bb611 »

gcp wrote: post #190
bb611 wrote: post #188

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Not always true, my last job had one director who worked 100% remote. She had multiple years of process knowledge she chose to share only when specifically needed to answer a question in a meeting or email. Much of this was critical information like "last year we published this report this way, but we promised to change the format this year." Even better, "we agreed not to change for 3 years but we're doing a ground-…

Not 100% true I don't understand what part you're disagreeing with. If anything, you're very strongly reinforcing my point.

Sorry, apparently I didn't include the critical fact that she worked 100% remote.

Updated my original comment.

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by sparky_ »

mi100hael wrote: post #73

> I am a night owl. You can tell me I have to have my butt in a chair within your line of sight at 8 or 9am, but that is very wasteful. This used to be me and I used to believe it was just the way things were. I'd naturally sleep 10+ hours until noon on the weekends, struggle to wake up for work, and then struggle to fall asleep before midnight. I had little energy for exercise and always felt stressed trying to find…

I'm an unapologetic night owl. I don't wake up before 10AM if I can help it, and I get a lot of productivity out of late night hours, both for work as well as personal endeavors. I enjoy my groove and would not change it. Were an employer to require me to be in the office early, I would refuse the offer or seek new employment. Given the nature of software work, I don't think this is at all unreasonable. As long as the team is able to rendezvous mid-day for several hours, it seems petty to hold individual actors to a universal schedule.

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by gurkendoktor »

Touche wrote: post #75
Jaruzel wrote: post #21

One of the opening lines resonated with me: "...I cannot trust employers to provide me with an adequate work environment." This is becoming more and more the default position, especially in the contract market. A recent contract I had, had quite poor office space - small old desks, old 17" monitors, no personal storage, chairs in poor repair, and a badly working hot-desk system (I have yet to encounter 'working' hot-…

Just curious, as I'm a morning person, when do you get non-work stuff done? I start work at 8 and stop at 5. From 5 to 8/8:30 I'm doing chores like cleaning up the house, running errands, making dinner, washing dishes. I get an hour or two of relaxation in watching a movie or reading a book and then I go to bed. When do night people fit in the time for that sort of stuff? I would imagine that you could do that sort o…

When I work from home, I actually enjoy finishing my errands before work because it wakes me up (walking, fresh air, sunlight). It's also much easier to get appointments around 10am than after 5pm. Cleaning up the house happens as I walk around the house to brew new tea etc., and washing the dishes is automated.

The real problem is how to socialise when you work until 10pm - it ruins Friday night :/

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by WWLink »

ChemicalWarfare wrote: post #194
cableshaft wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the idea behind core hours was supposed to be less than 8 hours, as it's time everyone is guaranteed to be there, with wiggle at the beginning and the end, not just 'these are your hours'. Like at a previous job, core hours was 10:00am to 4:00pm. Some people came in at 7:30am and left at 4:00pm, some people didn't get in until 10:00am and left at 6:30pm. But from 10 to 4, everyone was supposed to be there.

you're right. I should've went with 9-4 vs. 8-4. 10-4 is pretty generous, I personally never encountered a company with core hours officially starting after 9. That's not to say that I haven't encountered individuals showing up around 10 on a regular basis :)

I work at a 10-4 place, it's great!

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Post by WWLink »

ryanSrich wrote: post #85
throwaway2016a wrote: post #48

So to provide another point of view... I worked exclusively from home for two years. The cabin fever was so bad I couldn't take it anymore. I may be in the minority for programmers but I need other people around and I need the energy of an office. From a management standpoint. A good whiteboard session goes a long way to kill communication issues on projects that are creative or not 100% straightforward. Although, of…

I've been working remotely for more than three years now. I've dealt with cabin fever a number of times. Early on my initial reaction was to find a co-working space. My employer was more than willing to help out. I started looking around the city and eventually found one I thought I liked. After a few days I realized I hated it. I wanted to escape the office scene and here I was, given the freedom to do that, right b…

I like splitting the day up on a couple of venues. Like, a few hours at home, followed by some time in the office, and maybe a coffe shop? That makes the day go super fast!

Re: I Only Work Remotely

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Post by cableshaft »

ChemicalWarfare wrote: post #194
cableshaft wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the idea behind core hours was supposed to be less than 8 hours, as it's time everyone is guaranteed to be there, with wiggle at the beginning and the end, not just 'these are your hours'. Like at a previous job, core hours was 10:00am to 4:00pm. Some people came in at 7:30am and left at 4:00pm, some people didn't get in until 10:00am and left at 6:30pm. But from 10 to 4, everyone was supposed to be there.

you're right. I should've went with 9-4 vs. 8-4. 10-4 is pretty generous, I personally never encountered a company with core hours officially starting after 9. That's not to say that I haven't encountered individuals showing up around 10 on a regular basis :)

Well, it was a video game development studio, so that might have had something to do with it.
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