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Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by avn2109 »

1888franklin wrote: post #10

Howdy Matt - will you build a Muslim registry if Trump orders it or Congress passes it?

>> "...will you build a Muslim registry..."

I don't support Trump or the unconstitutional American deep state, but you realize there is already a Muslim registry right?

In fact there are probably several competing implementations in various intelligence agencies, with substantially overlapping contents. Probably almost every agency has the capability to run

select first_name, last_name, home_address from us_residents where religion = 'muslim';

And get largely right answers. Similarly, there is already a border wall with Mexico.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by weberc2 »

shostack wrote: post #154
danso wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a volunteer corps. For a lot of people, the military is one of the best job options as it also offers paid education via the G.I. Bill.

>"the military is one of the best job options" That seems like a problem in and of itself, and certainly a more pressing one.

Probably not one the USDS is particularly well-equipped to solve though.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by usds_app_throw »

As a new grad, the USDS was my top choice but I was constantly stonewalled by recruiters saying that I wasn't experienced enough.

For the USDS engineers on the thread--does the work really require 5+ years of work experience? Is there really no place for a passionate and moderately-experienced junior engineer in the organization? I would quit my job in a heartbeat if I got an offer.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by usds_app_throw »

As a new grad, the USDS was my top choice but I was constantly stonewalled by recruiters saying that I wasn't experienced enough.

For the USDS engineers on the thread--does the work really require 5+ years of work experience? Is there really no place for a passionate and moderately-experienced junior engineer in the organization? I would quit my job in a heartbeat if I got an offer.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by dragonwriter »

mc32 wrote: post #183
shostack wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>"the military is one of the best job options" That seems like a problem in and of itself, and certainly a more pressing one.

Many advanced countries require people of a certain age to do a stint in the military. I think a volunteer force is preferable to a conscripted force.

A volunteer force is definitely superior if you want to limit the concern of the general population about wars and make making war politically easier for the ruling class, which was a major consideration in the US switching to an all-volunteer force.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by vonmoltke »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #9
Matt_Cutts wrote: post #2

Let me know if folks have any questions, but I left Google on Dec. 31, 2016.

No questions, just a compliment. After going through the USDS interview process and declining an offer, I have nothing but appreciation for those who serve there knowing what's involved to be selected, onboarded, and what the day to day looks like. Best of luck as your journey there continues.

I don't want to be too negative here, but I had the opposite experience. I didn't like the little bit of the process I actually got to experience, did not get a good feeling from either the job description or the one interview I had what the USDS is actually looking for, and found the canned rejection email to be a bit condescending.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by stale2002 »

pc86 wrote: post #170
gsch wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The registry existed under Obama, but it was created in 2002 after 9/11, partially suspended in 2011, and fully suspended last month [0], though it looks like it remains to be seen whether the suspension will be undone. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Entry-Exit_R...

NSEERS is not even remotely a Muslim registry. It says if you're from one of five countries or are specifically selected, you have to pass additional scrutiny to enter the US and are subject to additional notification and reporting requirements.

Well it is effectively the same as what Trump wants to implement. So it is as much of a Muslim registery as his plan. (which, as you argue, is not at all)

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by [deleted] »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39
spoon16 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the USDS project selection criteria is that we prioritize work that based on what will do the greatest good for the greatest number of people in the greatest need. I do not believe a Muslim Registry does any good for anyone. Being involved in building one would require formally changing our values which would be visible to everyone in USDS. Disclaimer: personal opinion, I am currently serving on a USDS team, m…

> One of the USDS project selection criteria is that we prioritize work that based on what will do the greatest good for the greatest number of people in the greatest need The USDS is a taxpayer-funded public entity. The "greatest good..." is determined by the law, written by our duly elected representatives. You don't get to serve the public and selectively reject the law. If the Congress passes a law you disagree w…

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Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by vkou »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #39
spoon16 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the USDS project selection criteria is that we prioritize work that based on what will do the greatest good for the greatest number of people in the greatest need. I do not believe a Muslim Registry does any good for anyone. Being involved in building one would require formally changing our values which would be visible to everyone in USDS. Disclaimer: personal opinion, I am currently serving on a USDS team, m…

> One of the USDS project selection criteria is that we prioritize work that based on what will do the greatest good for the greatest number of people in the greatest need The USDS is a taxpayer-funded public entity. The "greatest good..." is determined by the law, written by our duly elected representatives. You don't get to serve the public and selectively reject the law. If the Congress passes a law you disagree w…

"You don't get to serve the public and selectively reject the law."

Every presidential administration since time immemorial begs to differ.

Re: Staying with the US Digital Service

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Post by Matt_Cutts »

jconley wrote: post #186

Just a warning for everyone from California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, etc. They do require you to certify for the background screening that you have not done any federally illegal drugs in the last 12 months, and possibly do drug tests. Might not want to spend too much time on it if that applies to you. https://www.usds.gov/join#who

You would need to take a drug test to work for the USDS. To the best of my knowledge, you don't have to take a drug test to apply to 18F, although I believe that you may be asked the question as part of the application process for 18F.
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