Facebook censor news! Facebook removes human censors Facebook allow fake news on their platform! One a serious note: Fake news is a different problem to news 'bubbles' designed to create positive emotions. Sure they're closely linked, but you can have either without the other. I read this article and it seems to switch between them both. I appreciate the viewpoint but I found it hard to follow.
I feel like this isn't talked about enough. Facebook was curating trending topics! It had dealt with fake news! And we complained, and let the floodgates open. I wonder what fake news traffic looks like when comparing to the date where FB stopped curating.
Facebook’s Walled Wonderland Is Inherently Incompatible with News
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#192Another article that avoids talking about the root cause because it's too unpalatable. Blaming facebook is misguided. Free speech is inherently incompatible with news.
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#193(Person B: reads loud) "Driven by the rise of the so called social media as a source of income and on the opposite, the - for this "use" - offered facts...."
B: "That is like eating meat followed by to pee standing up!"
A: "Would somebody be able to name it biological programmed ?"
B: "Untenable!"
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#194This is just getting more stupid everday. Facebook is no and never was a news platform. It is a crappy social network and only reflects your inner friend circle. Why anyone and especially facebook should care about fake news is beyond me.
http://www.journalism.org/2015/07/14/the-evolving-role-of-ne...
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dont see this kind of influence from twitter and reddit. The personal feeling in facebook is far far higher than twitter and reddit. I have never used reddit. The active user share is no where close to facebook. Their reactions buttons are very much reflective of people's views.
Trump tweets lies to 16 million people at a time. The Pizza shop conspiracy was heavily marketed on Reddit, and I'll bet the shooter today got all his info from there. These platforms have a HUGE problem.
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#196This is just getting more stupid everday. Facebook is no and never was a news platform. It is a crappy social network and only reflects your inner friend circle. Why anyone and especially facebook should care about fake news is beyond me.
Facebook is currently a news platform and has been for a few years now. http://www.journalism.org/2015/07/14/the-evolving-role-of-ne...
Something that is filtered by what your friends think about stuff is not what i call news. Its just opinion circlejerk around prefiltered news.
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#198I am not a fan of FB but it must be understood that FB is not a news agency. Another thing to consider here is: FB may be wallgardened, but what about the mainstream news organizations that are sold out to various parties? (e.g. Saudi Islamists have many huge investments/shares in many mainstream news organizations) Many mainstream news organizations are worse than FB when it comes to spread lies and propaganda in th…
> am not a fan of FB but it must be understood that FB is not a news agency. It doesn't matter what Facebook calls itself. It has power, and responsibility follows. > The mainstream US media is suppressing any criticism of Islam under the flimsy arguments like racism and islamophobia I believe there's plenty of it in the news. Syria has been a top story for three years running. Everyone knows how Saudi-Arabia treats…
>>Beyond that, it's not in the news because (a) it's not "new" and (b) there is nothing gained from a collective mob against islam. Bombing doesn't help.
There is no such thing as collective mob against Islam. In fact, there was not even mention of Islam until Trump came along, in the mainstream media. Earlier it was only "Islam is religion of peace" chanting in the mainstream media.
Agreed that bombing doesn't help, but criticism of Islam is very much needed. Islam should ridiculed and shamed in public the same way as Christianity was/is. Islam should not have a special treatment in modern free society. Mainstream media fails in this respect.
>>Being condemned by Americans also doesn't change a single mind in the mideast.
How are you so sure?
I can see many Muslims changing their attitude towards Islam due to whatever criticism they get to hear. In fact many are leaving Islam due to it.
Another factor is why should it matter even if criticism of Islam doesn't change a single mind in mideast?
Condemning and (at least) making people aware of the vicious, misogynist, homophobic, oppressive and cruel ideology is a must first step towards progress and is a duty of the liberal media. Islam is such an ideology, and our pseudo-liberals are cozy with it, which is dangerous for our democracy.
>>Instead, you get the opposite. How many stories have we had about muslims being forced off airplanes because they spoke Arabic or "looked like a terrorist". Of course they're usually professors of philosophy who grew up in the UK and studied at Harvard.
Of course, it's bad to treat Muslims that way, but we must understand that "the rational fear of the ideology of Islam" is responsible for this type of "irrational fear of ordinary Muslims".
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#200My personal view is that low regulation advertising is simply not compatible with Western Democracy. If you don't regulate away emotive and brand advertising you're corrupting all the systems that are supposed to regulate our societies (for brevity "advertising" refers to brand and emotive advertising in the below). The basic idea of how information flows & control works in western market driven democratic republics:…
Keynes was speaking relative to the conditions of the day, though. The real GDP per capita of the UK in 1930, when he wrote, was $5400. You wouldn't have to work for very long to make that kind of money, as an average UK worker. I've worked 20 hours a week at a below-average wage and considered myself quite a bit wealthier than your typical low-middle-class Briton of 1930. The big differences are that "normal" living standards have risen so fast, and so much unpaid work (largely housework and time-consuming chores) have been automated.
How do you actually know people are fooled? Your subjective opinion of their best interest? How can you usefully distinguish good advertising from bad advertising? How do you know that people are "persuaded" to act against their own self-interest - and not that they simply have preferences you don't like?