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Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Not really. GNU/Linux doesn't have desktop stack capable of matching Objective-C, Swift frameworks both in feature set and related GUI tooling.

How thorough of a survey have you done?

Read my comment above (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12854556)

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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I'm really hoping this is just a phase. Hoping that Apple will reduce prices of new laptops and we'll be back to normal. Right now everybody is using Macs. Walk into the Bay Area coffee shop, you see Macs everywhere. I love that. I build desktop software for Macs (focuslist.co). My apps are prettier than any others. They are easier and faster to use. This is the reason why people pay me $5 while they can get the job…

Personally I think this is just a phase triggered by those that actually aren't developers invested into Apple, rather people that want UNIX with a pretty GUI.

I think the emphasis including that in the article on pretty is a fundamental misunderstanding of why developers like macOS.

For me and a lot of others what I really want is a UNIX that just works.

Meaning it just works with its hardware in all ways... audio and video playing, recording, editing and everything else all work very well, without having to recompile the kernel or hunt down and install alpha drivers without source hosted on sketchy sites, which is what drove me away from other UNIXes.

Also macOS is a good platform for developing native iOS apps. Why iOS and not Android? Mostly because the version adoption curve of Android is pretty bad.

The point is it's more about functionality and getting stuff done than it is about pretty. With other UNIXes there was always too much fighting with the system.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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They need to watch out because apparently the Gnome foundation wants to ditch Vala for Rust to cut cost and "attract more developers" : https://siliconislandblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/thoughts-... > and support a preferred programming language (Vala) https://launchpad.net/elementary

Gnome foundation: when you finally gain traction, you press reset, bravo.

lol right, I expect them to move to QT anyway ... /s

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Unfortunately, Linux lacks in the creative market. There's no way this can change soon without support from big players, like, for example, Adobe.

That depends on what kind of creative pro you are. In general I'd completely agree with you, but the major VFX vendors all run on Linux - with Nuke, Maya, Houdini, Modo, Clarisse, Mari, etc.

If you get lucky with your particular combination of hardware and drivers, yes this can be true for some people.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Are there any distributions where the display scaling works at least as good as Windows 10? I don't expect it to be as perfect as the Mac but the current Ubuntu is a mess when you change the scaling factor.

elementary should automatically handle your hidpi quite well.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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Not really. GNU/Linux doesn't have desktop stack capable of matching Objective-C, Swift frameworks both in feature set and related GUI tooling.

GTK? QT? And, since we're talking elementary, Vala?

GTK has been fairly hostile to non-Gnome usage since the GTK 3 era; they keep on breaking backwards compatibility for applications that use it, don't care about whether apps can be used on non-Gnome desktop environments, etc. I don't think it's all that polished either.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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So USB-C is what it takes to get you to switch to Linux? What are you going to do when all other laptop manufacturers follow suit - switch back? Mac users who make this threat sound just like people who threaten to move to Canada every election cycle.

Personally, USB-C is the least of my problem. I care about having a fast, powerful laptop with 32 or 64GB ram (I run a lot of VMs for my work, I could offload it to the cloud but then it's more of a hassle).

I complain because Apple decided to make the macbook pro 15 inch lighter and thinner resulting in 25% less battery (going from 99.5 watt-hour to 76.0-watt-hour), this means that they have to make more compromises to keep a good battery life and instead of having a decent graphic card like the nvidia gtx 1080 or 32GB ram, the new macbook pros are underpowered.

Since, apple is unlikely to decide to go back to the previous form factor, they are unlikely to ever sell a laptop with decent performances compared to their competitors.

And to add insult to the injury, switching to usb-c forces users (at least for a year or two) to carry a lot of extra adapters which makes the weight loss moot.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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They need to watch out because apparently the Gnome foundation wants to ditch Vala for Rust to cut cost and "attract more developers" : https://siliconislandblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/thoughts-... > and support a preferred programming language (Vala) https://launchpad.net/elementary

I agree with the article. Vala is a wonderful language, but it doesn't have the necessary tooling built around it.

Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics

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I really wish someone would start a paid OS based on Linux and OSS tools. I'd happily pay $100/y (year being, new versions/etc) for a stable and awesome UI/UX. As it is, my Macbook Pro Retina has been crashing a lot and doing weird things frequently since i upgraded to Sierra. Between that and the latest Macbook Pro notebooks, i just don't like Apple anymore. I'm pretty set on buying a highend laptop _(similar build…

I believe elementary OS is the closest thing to what you're looking for. They're an LLC with the team that focuses on building a good looking UI and a nice UX. Pantheon is the only desktop environment which I wouldn't call outdated in the Linux world and somewhat stable and easy to get (Solus project is attempting to do the same, but I think they just don't have enough man power to pull it off).

I am not sure why you think that Pantheon is the only one in this category. Have you not seen the Cinnamon DE?
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