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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by spike021 »

lucisferre wrote: post #125
jordache wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple these days are designed for optimal usage of iTunes and Safari. It is no longer the platform of choice for creative content creation.

Surprisingly, two of the worst pieces of software that come with OSX. I would love it if they were really optimizing anything about iTunes.

iTunes has been completely awful since the last update. For a while it wasn't usable at all if my laptop woke up from Sleep mode, and a patch a couple weeks ago seemed to fix that, but it still happens. It's like the application doesn't have logic anymore to handle reconnecting to networks.

Plus most of the interface feels unnatural to use, at least for Apple Music and the Store.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by blakeyrat »

jhwhite wrote: post #21
laurent123456 wrote: post #11

With its Subsystem for Linux aimed at developers and now this desktop PC for designers, it seems Microsoft is quickly catching up with Apple. Now if they could release a good alternative to the MacBook Pro that would be great.

MS is definitely taking the steps in the hardware department that Apple has been lagging behind on. But I still feel Windows itself is not a productive OS. I'm big on keyboard shortcuts but MS is very much mouse based. Being required to use my pinky to try and hit CTRL instead of my thumb to hit COMMAND to do simple things like copy and paste is HUGE to me. I didn't use a Windows machine for 3 years and when I did ne…

> But I still feel Windows itself is not a productive OS. I'm big on keyboard shortcuts but MS is very much mouse based.

Maybe you should read the help file instead of going on "feelings". Every UI widget in Windows can be operated from the keyboard.

> Being required to use my pinky to try and hit CTRL instead of my thumb to hit COMMAND to do simple things like copy and paste is HUGE to me.

Oh come on. You're just making up reasons to dislike it at this point. "The shortcut key is a half-inch further away! THIS IS AMAZINGLY IMPORTANT MIND-BLOWING SUPER-FLAW!"

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by partiallypro »

mhomde wrote: post #71

I can't but feel sad that Microsoft somehow is dropping the ball on mobile despite them having been, briefly, in a prime position to succeed. They've executed well with their "One platform"-strategy. UWP is great and with the new composition API their finally moving into being able to compete in the modern software arena. Meanwhile on the hardware side Panos is basically doing what Apple should have been doing if the…

What is going to set Microsoft apart in mobile at this point? The fact that you probably can't answer that is why Microsoft is still at the drawing board. One day they will return to the mobile world, probably next spring; but for now launching a good smart phone, even a great smart phone, that lacks the eco-system of Apple and Google is DOA unless it has something else appealing about it.

I suspect the "Surface Phone" will be announced next spring, and I'm sure Panay and his hardware team will knock it out of the park, but without Windows 10 Mobile catching up there's no point in releasing it even if it's the greatest phone hardware ever created.

Once the proper software that can set Microsoft apart is in place, it will strike. The smartphone market is so saturated right now they could catch everyone off guard and make a dent.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by blackoil »

markdog12 wrote: post #170
blackoil wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am using company provide rMBP for 2 years and I like to linux like terminal/bash, but otherwise I can't find any reason it is so revered. Multi monitor support sucks so bad, I have to wiggle mouse few seconds at bottom of monitor before it is taken as active, but boy popup of active window still opens on 2nd monitor. I minimize Firefox it goes down in Dock, now when I press Cmd+Tab, Firefox is in the applications l…

Try keyboard prefs: tick off "All Controls" http://osxdaily.com/2010/02/26/use-the-tab-key-to-switch-bet...

tab keys is good, what I meant is if I close unsaved file in textWrangler, it shows `Do you want to save` dialog. I press tab to focus 'Don't Save' button, press enter, but instead of closing file without saving I get 'Save As' dialog since enter key ignores the current focus and always triggers the default action

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by CountSessine »

pjmlp wrote: post #154
mhomde wrote: post #71

I can't but feel sad that Microsoft somehow is dropping the ball on mobile despite them having been, briefly, in a prime position to succeed. They've executed well with their "One platform"-strategy. UWP is great and with the new composition API their finally moving into being able to compete in the modern software arena. Meanwhile on the hardware side Panos is basically doing what Apple should have been doing if the…

They are winning the netbook market instead. I was looking around for netbooks on the 300 € price range, on the shops around me they are all tablets with detachable keyboards running Windows 10. Besides the Apple section with the iPad Pro, there were almost no hybrid notebooks with Android on sale besides a few Samsung models, all the other ones have been wiped out by such Windows 10 devices.

Out of curiosity, what's the use case for cheap win10 netbooks nowadays?

When I think of something that has a web browser and a keyboard, the low end of the market seems to be the current crop of Chromebooks, and schools seem to agree - they've been phenomenally popular in education.

Typical Win10 netbooks don't have a lot of CPU+GPU grunt, so it doesn't seem to me (maybe you'll correct me) like they'd be very good for running most Windows apps.

Is this a big market?

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by j2bax »

gthtjtkt wrote: post #132

$2,999 and the best GPU option is a last-gen mobile card? The default 965M is a crappy budget card (half the performance of the 980M), and if you want the 980M you have to pick the $4,199 configuration. And hybrid drives!? This thing starts at $2,199 and you can't even get a full SSD? I know 2D designers probably won't mind the GPU, but they could definitely benefit from a true SSD. Hell, the recently announced Razer…

It's probably more than adequate for most professionals. I don't think they are pegging it as a gaming machine, or a render machine/farm. The graphics capabilities, similar to the mobile graphics chips in iMac's and MacBook Pro's will probably serve the vast majority of graphics professionals just fine.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by Pigo »

20tibbygt06 wrote: post #16

Starting at $2,999 to $4,199 Product Page: https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface... *Surface Dial included edit: as pointed out below you do get a Surafce Dial with the purchase of the studio. I originally looked at the "what's included" section where the dial was not listed.

This is why I'd love to have one. But will not have one until I work for a place that wants to get me one. I still feel guilty for buying my Pixel 2.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by [deleted] »

alva wrote: post #53

Surface Dial looks very, very cool. Innovation in the HCI space is greatly welcome. Could not find any info on whether you can use 2 at the same time. That could have some incredible applications!

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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by [deleted] »

smrtinsert wrote: post #55
dorianm wrote: post #46

They can do all the marketing they want, I just feel like this is gonna be the buggiest thing I ever used if I tried it.

How's that? I tried an surface pro a while ago and the touch screen worked fine. They had some issues to work around scaling, but iirc those are mostly sorted out. Frankly it looks amazing.

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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by igravious »

rufugee wrote: post #6

If it will run Linux, I'll buy one immediately...

This looks incredible. I'm writing this from Ubuntu 16.10 (so I'm no Microsoft fan) on a Dell laptop and I have to say that I am super envious. The hardware/software combo on offer here looks truly innovative. That Surface Dial, the possibilities are … endless, sorry to sound so clichéd.

Can we please stop with the comparisons in the other comments to Apple please? :) You'd swear they were the only other tech company in existence. Sheesh, it's like living in a bubble.

I wish Microsoft success with this, and I hope they continue to open source their software offerings and keep opening up their hardware technical specifications. We really need Microsoft to remain an innovative and cooperative part of the community.

Microsoft cannot outcompete Linux, not in the long run, it's impossible. I know it may not seem possible right now but I reckon in the future Windows will have maybe 10% of the desktop OS market, Apple will have 10%, and Linux will have 80% split between different flavours: Google, Amazon, Canonical, Samsung, HTC, Xiaomi, whoever wants in basically. When that happens Microsoft needs to have a lot of hardware/software combos on offer, phones, tablets, laptops, all-in-ones, consoles, media boxes, you name it, with tight integration. It's entirely possible given the direction Google is heading that they'll fork Android/ChromeOS. Don't think it is possible? It'll happen. Chromebooks already outsell Macs in some locales: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/23/chromeboo.... I guarantee within five years there'll be a version of Microsoft Office for some flavour of desktop Linux.

Went on a _bit_ of a sidetracked ramble there. Anywho, neato hardware offering Microsoft!

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