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GitHub censored my research data

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Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by sytse »

turncharlie wrote: post #189
gwillem wrote: post #187

Gitlab CEO just called me and apologized, will restore data shortly. I am personally very sorry that GL got in a bad light here. They had misinterpreted my data and have acknowledged that. For comparison, I have heard nothing from GH over the last two days. Gitlab, you rock.

FWIW, if GitLab sees this: Well done. We were planning on buying their hosted service (GitHost) for my employer next week and after this story initially broke I was going to table that and use something else. This has restored our faith in GitLab as a company.

Thanks Charlie, glad to hear that. For reference our response blog post is https://about.gitlab.com/2016/10/15/gitlab-reinstates-list-o...

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by sytse »

gwillem wrote: post #187

Gitlab CEO just called me and apologized, will restore data shortly. I am personally very sorry that GL got in a bad light here. They had misinterpreted my data and have acknowledged that. For comparison, I have heard nothing from GH over the last two days. Gitlab, you rock.

You don't have to be sorry Willem. We just made a mistake and corrected it. Thanks allowing us to correct it and for posting about us fixing it here and on Twitter. And thanks for making the internet a safer place.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by BoorishBears »

PuffinBlue wrote: post #140
BoorishBears wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really hate this trend of journalism leaking into services like Github. We have secure ways to share files with high redundancy, why put a service like Github/Gitlab in the line of fire when their primary goal is to enable open collaboration, vs open information.

What services are you referring to please?

Torrents are what in mind really, low barrier of entry for viewing, and someone in an oppressed state who can get arround a website block can probably get the torrent anonymously. To me not being easy to edit is an upside, additional data should require the initial trusted party to share a new magnet

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by vacri »

"Moderated", not "censored". Neither GitHub nor GitLab have stopped the message going out from outlets other than their own. Would we be comfortable calling the moderators here on HN "censors"?

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by sytse »

sytse wrote: post #190
gwillem wrote: post #40

GL sent me this statement. For the record, I didn't publish vulnerable systems, I published stores that have malware. --- Willem, GitLab has opted to remove the list of servers that you posted in your snippet. GitLab views the exposure of the vulnerable systems as egregious and will not abide it. While GiLab reserves the right take further action, up to and including termination ( https://about.gitlab.com/terms/ ), w…

Sorry for our mistake Willem, we reinstated the snippet. Also see our blog post about this on https://about.gitlab.com/2016/10/15/gitlab-reinstates-list-o... TLDR; The owners of web stores have a responsibility to their users. And it is in the users interest to have the list published so owners. We currently think that the interest of the user weights heavier.

For reference the HN discussion of our blog post https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12715473

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by syshum »

jrochkind1 wrote: post #148

> I understand that Github doesn’t have the resources to investigate each and every DMCA notice. The DMCA as written really encourages no investigation whatsoever on the part of the service provider, this is pretty much how everyone acts. File a counter-notice with the service provider if you don't think your content violates anyone's copyright. In this case, if Github took it down because of a DMCA notice, i think G…

>>>it's not clear to me that Github took it down because of DMCA.

Exactly, there seems to be a common misunderstanding that if anything is taken down then it because of DMCA, there are number of ways content may be removed from a platform, be it GitHub, Facebook, YouTube, etc. Not all of it is DMCA.

In fact for large platforms that offer take down processes outside of DMCA I would say the vast majority is not, for example anything taken down via ContentID on Youtube is NOT a dmca take down.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by franciscop »

halter73 wrote: post #87
franciscop wrote: post #84

Have you thought about contacting Adblockers or even Browsers? They might be interested in this data to block the sites for the average Joe.

From the article: 7. I have, prior to publication, submitted all URLs and malware samples to Google’s Safe Browsing team. They have since only acted upon a small portion of the sites.

When I read that I assumed it was Google Search team, not Google Chrome team

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by johnsea »

ricardobeat wrote: post #143
johnsea wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As you said: to some extent! Have a look at the "What is Github Pages" [1] and one clearly feels that Pages is meant for software, projects, manuals etc. And NOT to publish documents to shame 3rd party misbehaviour and hopefully attract publicity and quarrel. Such content should go to other places (imho). [1] https://pages.github.com/

Why are you so angry? This is not about shaming, but protecting customers - first thing I did even before reading the full article was to click the link to see if I have given my CC to fraudsters, then I was gifted with a 404 from GitLab.

Yes you are right, I 'over-reacted'.
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