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Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#191

I find it hard to trust HN users as I was about to adopt and migrate from MongoDB to rethinkDB based on consensus by HN user comments about it being undeniably superior, yet it was actually close to shutting down apparently.

Well... The consensus is that RethinkDB is technically superior (and much more pleasant to use), but unfortunately that doesn't prevent it from being in a hard position business-wise...

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#192

Why does nobody seem to have any introspection on why RethinkDB failed? Clearly there are some major problems that people re ignoring. If my favorite DB (I must mention Kx Systems once a month) folded, I could give you a laundry list of issues where things went sideways, but all I see is glowing praise and comments about the best tech not always winning (KDB knocks the socks off of everything, but I sure can give you…

> KDB knocks the socks off everything else

...but the licence is 250k dollars a year so big fail for startups.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I had to speculate, I'd say that they spent a long time in development before monetizing, longer than investors were willing to entertain. It's hard for a B2B company to raise a Series B without a thoroughly proven revenue engine. I don't know how this could have been fixed though. Databases are hard to develop and it's a tough market to crack. Enterprises aren't going to buy an incomplete product, especially not…

Just looking at some of the RethinkDB and ReQL stuff, I certainly wouldn't have used it. Two things hit me immediately: - bad performance - a dearth of types (literally only a single numeric type that is a 64-bit float, so that eliminates entire categories that rely on integer/fixed-precision exact arithmetic. Also, time series are seriously hurt by that decision. I've seen DBs have to move to 64-bit longs because of…

Edit - I actually meant for this to be in reply to jnordwick's comment further down thread (the one with all the rhetorical questions), but apparently I suck at clicking the right things.

You seem a bit worked up, and it's hard not to read your comments in this thread in a tone which suggests you feel like you've been robbed of something.

These people don't owe us anything. When a company decides to open up and publish a postmortem it's a great and wonderful thing, but it's in no way obligatory. Even if their technology doesn't hold a candle to your expectations or the market's needs, it's still not without merit. If you want to learn, they've already given plenty for you to learn from. Rather than demanding more from them, be thankful for what they have already contributed.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#194
While RethinkDB looks amazing I'm glad I didn't listen to the people here demanding me to switch from MongoDB. In the future I will just stick with what works.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#196

Wow. I was seriously rooting for them. I'm looking forward to Slava's posts about their challenges on the business side. There's a part of me that's angry that MongoDB - which some would say has made an objectively worse product - has succeeded. My initial thought is that MongoDB has done a way, way better job at SEO. The number of blog posts about RethinkDB pales in comparison to Mongo. I wonder if they got beat on…

Exactly. It's sad that a technical superior product can't make it while something like Mongo can.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#197
post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We tried with the REEP stack. RethinkDB, Elixir, Elm, Phoenix.

How did that work out?

I should rephrase. We, the community of people using Elm/Elixir/Phoenix/RethinkDB, tried to get the name REEP to catch on.

As far as the stack itself goes, it's wonderful.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#198
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RethinkDB is one of the developer tools that we at Stripe most looked up to.[1] The team had so many good ideas and rigorous, creative thoughts around what a database could be and how it should work. I'm really bummed that it didn't work out for them and have enormous respect for the tenacity of their effort. I'm also excited to have them join us here at Stripe. As we've gotten to know Mike, Slava, and the other Reth…

I secretly (not 'secret' anymore I guess) and irrationally trust Stripe to do good on RethinkDB.

Also, TIL: Slava is defmarco. Yeah defmarco, that's how I read it for a long time. I especially love this piece from defmarco http://www.defmacro.org/ramblings/fp.html

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#200

Just started a new project at my company using RethinkDB, very early stages, but I was amazed at how well this was documented and implemented. Coming from different ORMs to use with MongoDB, ReQL was a joy to work with and I didn't even want to use an ORM(for me at least, others may disagree). Sad day to me, but as an open source tech, I hope and trust it will continue to live on. It sounds like the company landed at…

Exact same boat - I've based a few new api's with RethinkDB in the background - hoping it stays alive.
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