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Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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Addressing is broken on a global scale. And this won't fix it. Addressing schemes like street & block level addresses can be useful for finding your way around. This is an important feature. I know how to get from 123 My Street to 150 My Street. I don't know how to get from Libres 2956 (Saxophone) to Libres 2900 (Other avatar).

Any physical addressing scheme that doesn't take routing into consideration is doomed to failure IMO.

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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It isn't a third world or African problem. The capital city of Canada's newest territory (Iqaluit, capital of Nunavut) didn't have any street names until a few years ago. Buildings today are still identified by numbers alone, with a degree of local knowledge needed to find many locations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iqaluit

Economists and 'social entrepreneurs' prefer the term developing world or developing countries in contrast to developed countries. Countries can be evaluated using the Human Development Index to determine their designation.

Less economically developed country is another term that is commonly used.

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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Maybe I'm missing something but why does "Pearl" mean 8480 and "Magical" -6129? If that's a hash, I really dislike this, because A: humans can't do hashing in their heads, and B: get one letter wrong and suddenly you don't have the right address. This has also been my big opposition to what3word. Addresses need to be resilient. If I make a tiny mistake in my address, there should be enough redundant data to help fix…

> One letter off and you're doomed.

what3words autosuggest API allows setting fixed bounds and focus point during a request to make it more obvious. https://docs.what3words.com/api/v2/#autosuggest-clip

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

#194

Addressing is broken on a global scale. And this won't fix it. Addressing schemes like street & block level addresses can be useful for finding your way around. This is an important feature. I know how to get from 123 My Street to 150 My Street. I don't know how to get from Libres 2956 (Saxophone) to Libres 2900 (Other avatar). Any physical addressing scheme that doesn't take routing into consideration is doomed to f…

Thanks Tharkun, did you try this? http://www.xaddress.org/takeme?from=40.7848694,%20-73.969670...

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

#195

I like this comparison: https://github.com/google/open-location-code/blob/master/doc... Which makes it also clear why open location code is really smart (disclaimer: I'm not involved nor a google fan boy ;)) But e.g. the fact is lovely that you can combine OLC with a city name (or more address information) making the code shorter I don't like the fact that Xaddress depends on words and uses an image for a visual hash…

Great resource, thanks for sharing

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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that might be insufficient for densely populated areas, perhaps an additional optional 4 digits?

I like it, but how about we add 2 more digits that don't get printed in human readable format on the mail but are used in barcodes to sort/deliver it?

Needs more UUIDs so we can get Microsoft on board.

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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It's a politically incorrect term but are you sure it's unreasonable to call Iqaluit "Third World"? I live in Oakland, California and I definitely think of it as a Third World city -- the utter poverty, homelessness with no end in sight, squalid encampments in the dirt in derelict land, the lack of help for anyone falling through the bottom of society. I wasn't born in the US but I find it odd that one of the criteri…

Iqaluit is Canada. It isn't third world, by either the original definition or the new. There is certainly poverty and deprivation there as in much of the north, but it isn't the same as a true "third world" nation. Each and every person in Iqaluit is free to move within Canada however they wish, vote for who they wish and exercise all the rights and freedoms of any other Canadian, including education and health care.

Switzerland is a Third World country by definition and has all this too.

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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post #169

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that might be insufficient for densely populated areas, perhaps an additional optional 4 digits?

I like it, but how about we add 2 more digits that don't get printed in human readable format on the mail but are used in barcodes to sort/deliver it?

Arguably, if it is just for sorting/delivery we could simply use the last two digits of the "length" portion of the address. That would enable any delivery service to sort the mail within the city block and still have a human readable equivalent in case the barcode becomes unreadable.

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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Yes, on balance I think you win this debate. You are perhaps a little too strongly influenced by the Cold War origins of this term, when for a couple of decades now the term has been almost exclusively used to describe places with poorly developed infrastructure and institutions. Phrases like "third world conditions" are common and as we agree, a feature of modern developing nations is high spatial variance in such t…

> northern section of West Oakland, and there I will encounter scenes that I literally will not be able to distinguish from bad areas in Addis Ababa. It took me a moment to realize that you're probably not referring to the Ethiopian food on Telegraph Ave.

No! I meant the people living in dirt near the train tracks and bridges.

Re: Show HN: Give 7B people an instant physical address

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It isn't a third world or African problem. The capital city of Canada's newest territory (Iqaluit, capital of Nunavut) didn't have any street names until a few years ago. Buildings today are still identified by numbers alone, with a degree of local knowledge needed to find many locations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iqaluit

Economists and 'social entrepreneurs' prefer the term developing world or developing countries in contrast to developed countries. Countries can be evaluated using the Human Development Index to determine their designation.

>> developing world or developing countries

Those terms denies the possibility that such conditions may be present in developed countries, which was the point of the above criticisms.

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