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Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by em3rgent0rdr »

cheriot wrote: post #18
prdonahue wrote: post #9

Facebook's forced migration of their users from basic, functional chat is, in my opinion, more frustrating than any single decision they've made to date (perhaps second to platform risk materializing to those businesses built on top of them). I once had a (protracted) debate with one of their earliest product designers who defended the decision unconditionally. His arguments were—more or less—"it's better for the use…

"better for the user" does not mean "better for EVERY user". A product team has to prioritize. I hate the permissions demanded by messenger, but for me it is nicer to use than the mobile site. I'm curious what people prefer about the web chat version?

"the user" can be such an abstract nonsense term. Collectivizing the individual desires of a multitude of users into some imaginary entity.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by em3rgent0rdr »

curiousgal wrote: post #33

I know every time a post about Facebook makes it to the front page here people say they don't use Facebook anymore but as a heavy Facebook user I am so fucking glad I blocked all Facebook domains last week. I feel liberated! This move would have quite ecked me but nope! Fuck you Facebook.

Congratulations! I've tried that before, but have relapsed after a few months.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by curiousgal »

technomancy wrote: post #146
mrweasel wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The only thing I use Facebook for is to say "Thank you" when folks wish me a happy birthday on my "wall". You can fix that by removing your birthday from Facebook. I did that one year and it turned out as expected, people only wish you happy birthday on Facebook, because Facebook more or less tells them to.

The other way to solve this is to set your birthday to an incorrect date; that way you don't have to feel bad about not saying thanks.

That's just evil! I like it.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by tyfon »

areyoucrazy wrote: post #73

I have stopped using Facebook (Twitter and everything social) half a decade ago. I don't use messaging apps and turn on my phone only when I really need to. Result: more free time to do interesting and productive things and people aren't bothering me as much. I have taken control of my life and I'm not being pushed around to do things based on notifications or desire for artificial status(likes, retweet, stars). Stop…

I wholeheartedly agree with this. I deleted my facebook account several years ago and I still have contact with my real friends via phone and email and a thing called meeting up in real life. All I lost were the friends I never wanted anyway.

As a side note, my company recently had a meeting with execs of our national branch of facebook, and after that meeting about 50% of our execs went and deleted their account...

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by kalleboo »

taurath wrote: post #17

Eventually facebook will become so user hostile the network effect will mean that so many people are leaving it'll be like Digg and Myspace all over again. Can we go back to the time when companies tried to please users instead of advertisers?

> Can we go back to the time when companies tried to please users instead of advertisers?

The last time that happened was when the users were the customers. But users don't want to pay for anything anymore.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by the_duke »

I very determinantly refuse to install both the regular FB app and the messenger, even though this is quite inconvenient as I often miss messages or event invites. But they require pretty much EVERY PERMISSION there is on Android, which is ridiciolous, and totally inacceptable to me.

So this change will make it even harder for me to access FB messaging. Buuh.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by tdkl »

e12e wrote: post #151
tdkl wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Folio and Swipe for Facebook use mbasic.facebook.com and are being actively worked on.

It's a loosing game to use "open" web solutions to provide a third party application to these silos. Twitter already killed themselves this way (they're just too big to die quickly), and I think facebook will too. Facebook as "facebook" is useful and fun, and a way to connect with people and share stuff. Facebook as "messenger" is phone service. It's infrastructure that's part of your life. It's part of direct human…

I agree completely with you on this matter and this change will probably bring me back to using SMS and email more.

I really hope RCS will catch on in the future, but there are extra obstacles in addition of all these competing corporate silos of this happening - carriers. Depressing.

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