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Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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canistr wrote: post #76
aresant wrote: post #44

It's so funny to watch MSFT completely miss the lessons that have turned Google into the World's Most Valuable Advertising Business. HEY YOU GUYS LETS PLASTER ADVERTISING ALL OVER ALL OF THE THINGS! Look at Gmail: http://imgur.com/M8RF1TV Look at Yahoo Mail: http://imgur.com/Cjwxspc Look at AOL Mail: http://imgur.com/ZeaIe1L Which email product do you use? Which would you rather use? The advertising business that is…

Eh. I don't use Gmail because their login page is ad-free. I use it because my workflow is better. I was expecting your screenshot to show the minimized amount of ads within the inbox. But you could argue that Outlook is reasonably minimal, Gmail is only text, and Yahoo/AOL are panelled ads.

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Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by ben174 »

treehau5 wrote: post #178
dangrossman wrote: post #84

Microsoft added the Spotlight feature last year, and this is pretty much exactly what it was billed as: if you don't have a lock screen image of your own, you get random wallpaper images from Bing, and also occasional app offers and tips. You can upvote/downvote the offers to personalize the suggestions in the future. It's an app discovery mechanism, and you can turn it off by picking your own lock screen image. I do…

Amazon Kindle does the exact same thing with their "Special Offers"

Only on the Kindle With Special Offers which is priced lower than the standard Kindle. A way more upfront approach. It's literally in the title of the product that you are purchasing something with advertising on the lock screen.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by sp332 »

scholia wrote: post #182
sp332 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shipments were down in 2015 even if you include Apple computers, which outperformed the rest. https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS40909316 Things look even worse when you take them out. Which forecasts are you using?

IDC PC numbers are depressed partly because it doesn't count tablets/2-in-1s as PCs, it counts them as tablets. The story to which you link notes that "The impact for 2016 will be larger as detachable tablet volume grows, boosting earlier forecasts of PC growth in 2016 from -3.1% to growth of 1 to 2%." The quote is saying that if you add those "tablets" back, it's predicting that the PC market will grow this year. An…

You're right, I'm still not used to Windows running on so many tablets. Also, tablet sales were also down last year so I didn't expect it to help. http://www.businessinsider.com/tablet-sales-down-in-addition...

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by hbosch »

fpgaminer wrote: post #170
joshAg wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of a performance hit do you get running a VM with vtx and vtd versus running windows bare metal? Is it as simple as it seems? I'd love to switch over to a VM for windows games backed by vtx and vtd, but I've been worried that it'd be waay more work.

> How's much of a performance hit do you get running a VM with vtx and vtd versus running windows bare metal? I've seen research that shows the GPU being 98-99% when using QEMU/KVM. I haven't used the system long enough to accurately quantify my personal experience. > Is it as simple as it seems? For me getting the GPU working was the easiest part. It worked on the first try. The hardest part was finding good docs (A…

Does "getting the GPU to work" mean you can give your Windows VM exclusive rights to the ports on the back of that graphics card as well? That would be amazing.

I'd love to, say, run a Hackintosh setup with Windows 10 in a VM that could fully utilize it's own GPU + external ports -- this way I could use a modern VR setup (Oculus or Vive) without having to use Windows full time!

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by HiggySmalls »

treehau5 wrote: post #178
dangrossman wrote: post #84

Microsoft added the Spotlight feature last year, and this is pretty much exactly what it was billed as: if you don't have a lock screen image of your own, you get random wallpaper images from Bing, and also occasional app offers and tips. You can upvote/downvote the offers to personalize the suggestions in the future. It's an app discovery mechanism, and you can turn it off by picking your own lock screen image. I do…

Amazon Kindle does the exact same thing with their "Special Offers"

Yeah but you get the benefit of paying a discounted price for a Kindle with "special offers"

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by wongarsu »

pdkl95 wrote: post #65
RealCasually wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the harm done? Of course you don't "own" your operating system. You also paid nothing for it. I also struggle to grasp the double standard of why Google, Facebook, et al are able to endlessly track and personalize ads, but when Microsoft follows a similar model, there is outrage.

> You also paid nothing for it. Windows requires payment, just not in dollars. The data gathered from "telemetry" (spyware) is valuable. edit: I'll assume from the downvotes that some people want to pretend that pattern-of-life data isn't valuable

> I'll assume from the downvotes that some people want to pretend that pattern-of-life data isn't valuable

I'm pretty sure it's from people who either payed for Windows and just got a free upgrade, or who directly bought Windows 10. Computers with "free" Windows obviously also have the price of Windows factored in. The closest you get to free Windows is with Dreamspark (their MINT student program), and even that costs money for the university.

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Post by gargravarr »

bduerst wrote: post #172
mnx wrote: post #118

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Which is like drm on steroids. And kind of exactly what people were warning drm would lead to - you don't own any music. But damn it's cheap and convenient.

As an ex-media hoarder, I am fine with this. The major benefit of owning music was that you could consume it easily on-demand. Since streaming services have expanded their libraries, delivery channels, and made songs available offline, there are less competitive benefits to actually owning a digital copy.

As a still-music-hoarder, I tried Spotify Premium for a while, but decided I didn't want to pay for it - I spent about the same cost monthly in new music, but if I stopped paying, I'd still have free access to all that music with no ads, and be able to play it all on any device with or without an internet connection (e.g. the old iPod connected to my car stereo). Streaming is certainly convenient, but they make it very difficult to walk away once you commit.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by fpgaminer »

littletinman wrote: post #139
fpgaminer wrote: post #99

With Windows 10 doing things like this, and Windows 7 being aggressively deprecated, I decided I finally wanted to ditch Windows as my daily driver. It was good timing, then, that I watched the "7 Gamers 1 CPU" video from LinuxTechTips, which showed me how to do it without sacrificing gaming. Most everything I use runs in Linux, and for the few things that don't I can spin up a VM. But there's the caveat that is as o…

Any chance you have a parts list for your build?

My build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JVsKYJ

I splurged on an M.2 PCI-E drive. 2 GB/s read!? How could I turn that down? No way I'll ever use that drive to its full potential, but I love the M.2 form factor.

Only thing I'd change is using AIO cooling for the CPU and the S340 instead of the H440 case. I had to use the H440 for the air cooler, and that was not an aesthetically pleasing choice. The H440 also has a number of obnoxious problems.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by dublinben »

maccard wrote: post #79
gargravarr wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steam is the best of a bad bunch really - it's not perfect, but it's much fairer than other platforms. There's another article on HTG (linked from this one) that outlines the differences between Steam and Windows Store, and Steam scores quite highly. I was very surprised when some of my older games suddenly popped up as being available on Linux for no extra cost. When the Steam DRM works properly, it's pretty non-inv…

The music and drm war was totally won by Spotify/Etc.

Except music went DRM-free by 2009. Spotify didn't launch in the US until 2011.

Re: Windows Now Showing Full-Screen Ads

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Post by strommen »

gargravarr wrote: post #6

Seems like the only way people want to make money these days is through invasive advertising without the end-user's explicit consent. Granted the expectation of free software is driving most of this, but it starts a vicious cycle because those who get annoyed with them develop countermeasures, which the creator responds to with more aggressive ads, ad infinitum. It does start explaining some of the highly controversi…

Isn't pretty much all advertising everywhere "without the end-user's explicit consent"?

Websites, TV, radio, print media, billboards, sides of buses, posters in public bathrooms, Disney-branded kids' food at the grocery store, product placements embedded in actual Hollywood movies, desktop search in freakin' Ubuntu...

I didn't sign up for seeing ads in any of these. They're just an implicit part of the social contract in 2016.

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