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How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

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Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#191
I have split websites that I visit into two categories:

1) Websites that still render and are readable after uMatrix, uBlock Origin, and a few other restrictive content filters are done with them. I continue reading and enjoying these, provided the content is worth my reading time.

2) Websites that are broken, or otherwise make the content inaccessible. For example, a "dialog" appears over the content, inviting me to join their newsletter. These sites get the ol' ^W or ⌘W, and after a few visits I learn to never visit them again.

Also, sites in category #2, are auto-censored anywhere I moderate.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#192
post #5

How are they going to detect ad blocking? They're going to have to spend a long time fighting anti-ad block detection. You can't trust the client. Ads are displayed in the client. It would take hardware level ad serving to make ad serving and anti-ad blocking feasible.

Trivial answer: the webpage is a monolithic PNG. Good luck building a general-purpose image parser & modifier, especially on a webpage with embedded animations. There are ways to make it very difficult to distinguish between content and ads, that's all you need to do. At the highest level, the content is the ads, which is usually what ends up happening to trade publications anyway.

A monolithic png doesn't track your browsing, clickjack you or even allow you to click on ads. That'd be terrible for advertisers.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#193
>We want to offer you a way to support us while also addressing those concerns

Then actually address those concerns, rather than just telling us to ignore them (whitelist) or pay up.

I don't care about ads, really. Yes they are a petty annoyance, but I grew up with magazines, newspapers, TV, and radio all supported by ads. However, the way they presented their ads was markedly different.

* Their ads didn't invite dozens of third parties to spy on everything I do.

* Their ads didn't break into my home, rifle through my things, and set up operations doing potentially illegal activities in my basement.

* When I wanted to read a 1-page article in their magazine, yes they showed me some ads, but I didn't have to pay the full cost of having a 20-volume encyclopedia delivered to my house just for the ads on that page.

Find a way to advertise without constantly assaulting the reader. Actually address your readers' concerns instead of downplaying them and knowingly causing harm to your readers. You have other options. Taking them, and proving that you can be successful without being evil, that would make a difference.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#194

I have split websites that I visit into two categories: 1) Websites that still render and are readable after uMatrix, uBlock Origin, and a few other restrictive content filters are done with them. I continue reading and enjoying these, provided the content is worth my reading time. 2) Websites that are broken, or otherwise make the content inaccessible. For example, a "dialog" appears over the content, inviting me to…

I feel as though this is my natural reaction as well.

That said, I appreciate how wired is handling the situation and communicating transparently and reasonably. I may consider white-listing the site simply out of support.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#196

I'm generally not inclined to fully whitelist anyplace because even if everything it loads today is safe, who's to say what's going to be loaded after the site gets hacked. That said, I tried to go through and do some allowing of requests and scripts for places I recognized, including whitelisting the site in Ghostery to keep it from interfering. After adding 19 separate exceptions in uMatrix for both whole domains a…

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Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#197
Everybody was happy to outsource ads.

Then the ads got sufficiently obnoxious that everybody started wiping them out.

The solution is to insource your ads again and take responsibility. Then people would quit wiping them out.

But, that will cut into somebody rich dude's profits, and they'll have to ... ewwwww ... employ somebody.

Or, they can lose completely and go out of business. Their call.

I don't link or read Forbes articles anymore. Cool by me.

Next up, the aggregators will start ripping the content that isn't strongly paywalled and republishing it. Probably without attribution. Good luck.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#198

> So, in the coming weeks, we will restrict access to articles on WIRED.com if you are using an ad blocker. Good luck with that, Wired. The people-who-will-never-pay group will split into two: People who never visit your site again, and people who up the ante in the ad-blocking escalation. While you may think that you don't care about the people-who-will-never-pay group, the latter subgroup will release their improve…

I have found out that I try and access a Forbes article about once a week from my cellphone. I've also found that I don't care about any of the links enough to whitelist it. I haven't shared a Forbes link with anyone since then.

if I care I just open it in pr0n tab

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#199
"You can simply add WIRED.com to your ad blocker’s whitelist, so you view ads."

That's cute. I just rolled out network-level adblocking at home to improve the security of legacy clients (e.g. old un-updateable Android phones). There is no concept of a whitelist in this approach.

Re: How Wired Is Going to Handle Ad Blocking

#200
I'm a bit shocked that Conde Nast never bothered to work out a digital advertising strategy that worked. In the magazine business they can sell off their pages easily because they are essentially part of the content and their content is influential. They control the client pool and match advertisers with the brand of content, a reader of Vogue would spend as much time studying the content of some advertisers because it covered their interests in an interesting way.

A good friend is a fashion designer and she collects oodles of high end magazines, they have a heavy cover price and advertising makes up a large proportion of the pages, but it doesn't matter because the content and advertising coalesce. The advertising editor is still an important part of the business and they make certain that their work both reinforces the business and doesn't tarnish the content. It's a slick alignment.

Something became unstuck with publishing on the web very early, and for whatever the reason, magazines and periodicals typically gave up exclusively collating and editing their own advertising material. An industry of third party providers took that job, providing the initial promise of instant revenue and later the promise that adverts could be tailored to the eyeballs of the viewer. But the third parties never came up with a way to nicely separate their ads from the content that people were attracted to, to give it the necessary space that makes reading a magazine somehow less bombarding. They adopted the messy format of banners and placement ads, which wasn't far away from the newspaper grid. But newspapers were always a different beast with less refinement, the daily coverage was enough of a compulsion to readers that it covered the incongruous layout (and the trend for a very long time was not to pollute the front page with advertising as this would cheapen the status of important stories and editorials - this came much later). Every ad technology that they have come up with only aides in their own destruction - popups, overlays, flash and animated gifs only serve in distracting the audience enough to irritate.

It's probably too late to reform the industry to make advertising consistent, relevant and non distracting. The content has already suffered, reputations are diminished and reputable journalists are becoming far more autonomous in their output. There was a renewed interest in digital magazine publishing when the ipad came out, it allowed for more traditional interaction, layout and perusal, but releasing an app based publication is more involved than publishing to the web once and there's more mind share in the latter.

It's going to be interesting to watch how the web trends for commercial media. But at the same time I doubt my fashion friend is about to stop buying magazines and judging by the content they are becoming more beautiful and textural with every new publication. Still a viable niche alternative to screen burn, the adverts look fantastic, and there's zero chance of accidental malware. No salvation for a suffering industry, but they've been embedded in the web a very long time and failed pretty badly.

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