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Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by deepnet »

VMG wrote: post #27

Ubik, 1969 > “From the drawer beside the sink Joe Chip got a stainless steel knife; with it he began systematically to unscrew the bolt assembly of his apt's money-gulping door. > "I'll sue you," the door said as the first screw fell out. Joe Chip said, "I've never been sued by a door. But I guess I can live through it.”

One of (Ubik author) Phil Dick's great insights was that our relationship with machines would be intrusive and passive aggressive.

Flying advert drones projecting adverts onto pedestrian's retinas; home appliances like fridges that refuse to open until sufficient coinage is inserted - a prescient vision.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by qb45 »

duderific wrote: post #145
ihsw wrote: post #71

Refurbished/used home appliances -- yet another way to leak credentials. I look forward to a day when the internal components of home appliances are salvaged on the off-chance that a user's credentials could be found in them. You can bet that off-brand devices will ask for a username/password and store it locally in plaintext.

This is already happening with used/refurbished copiers (not a home appliance usually, but still.) With many copiers, all scans are kept in memory. So copies of things with SSN's or other confidential information are just sitting there in the copier's memory, waiting to be retrieved by the next owner.

I once got lots of nice warez on a second-hand HDD :)

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by pjc50 »

ethbro wrote: post #57
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can guarantee it will be. Too much is proprietary. We need open and free protocols. I don't want to live in a world where I have to buy all my appliances and devices from the same manufacturer.

The issue is that gear supporting open and free protocols is (a) more complicated and/or expensive to install & (b) not visibly better until sometime in the future. I think the market has proved that it doesn't particularly think about anything past "Does it work right now?" And proprietary-in-a-box formats satisfy that just fine (usually at a cheaper price point). We'll no doubt eventually get integration, as there'…

selling IoT bridges

In the connectivity sense, or the "I have a bridge to sell you" sense? :)

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by shpx »

rvense wrote: post #3
ohitsdom wrote: post #2

"Samsung support only advised to restart the refrigerator and check timezone..." What a time to be alive.

At first I thought it wouldn't be so bad to pull over for a software update, but then I remembered I'd forgotten to charge my book and cigarette.

No joke, I occasionally get a (barely noticeable) nagging feeling to check the battery level while reading a book now.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by pjc50 »

mindslight wrote: post #99
redthrowaway wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As IoT becomes more ubiquitous, the people who plaster their houses in tin foil will become less ridiculous.

Nah. Pop open the cover and install an aftermarket control board that runs Free software. Eventually, this will be more user-friendly (better interface one doesn't have to relearn every monthly update), convenient (better software features), and economical (how many appliances are thrown out due to software malfunctions).

Since this has to be reverse-engineered for each model, it's not going to be very prevalent. Are there any examples of this already?

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by OJFord »

jaynos wrote: post #92
makecheck wrote: post #23

I remember seeing a commercial for those things where they drafted the Top Chef brothers, and even in the commercial it looked extremely awkward to use. "Oh, let's just look up something...(walk over...bend down...glance at screen...slowly punch things in...)." Even if it were the best thing ever, I know technology and I know that fridges last years longer than any gadget ever has. Any choice of touchscreen, OS or ev…

Same reason why GPS feature in a car is useless. I'm using google maps on my phone anyway due to the better interface and constant updates.

    > I'm using google maps on my phone anyway due to the
    > better interface and constant updates.
And live traffic without paying a subscription (except for data)!

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by praneshp »

RyanZAG wrote: post #123
exelius wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking that if you're in the market for a $3600 Internet-connected fridge, you can afford and would just rather have the iPad. I don't know enough about the Fire to say whether it's a piece of garbage or not; all I know is that I have a bunch of iPad apps that I've paid for and Apple's ecosystem makes it easy to add another iPad and transfer my settings over.

Humans are pretty funny! Going off the usual price for apps ($2.99?), and a 'bunch' is probably about 25 apps, then replacing all your paid iOS apps with paid Fire apps would probably cost you $75. So ignoring anything else, a lot of people would actually value their $75 sunk app costs greater than the $350 difference between that iPad and the Fire. It's a pretty interesting lesson in humanity.

>>>then replacing all your paid iOS apps with paid Fire apps would probably cost you $75.

In my experience, it's very difficult to find the same apps in the Fire store.

You can just install android on the Kindle Fire and be happy, though.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by VLM »

watty wrote: post #72
Eric_WVGG wrote: post #45

I was impressed and a little amazed by how deadpan and serious the messages in the discussion are… nobody stops to reflect on the sheer insanity that we’re all giggling at over here. I assume, anyway, eventually my attention wandered and I skipped to the end, where a charming young lad does indeed go unhinged over “samsucks” and heroin-addicted mothers.

I'm more amazed by how everyone on HN is so shocked by a computer on a fridge. We live in an age where powerful computers with touchscreens can be had for tens of dollars... what's so shocking about an underpowered computer on a fridge? What's so shocking about wanting it to function as advertised?

If you're of just the right age you'll remember coming home from a night out to flip on the TV (remember those?) and watch infomercials about $50 pieces of junk that somehow combine a folding fishing pole with a fly swatter and a flashlight and the miracle is its possible, although the result is it does nothing well at all. Not one thing. Total across the board laugh out loud fail. AKA the IoT.

Re: Can't sign in to Google calendar on my Samsung refrigerator

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Post by qb45 »

thedudemabry wrote: post #152
makecheck wrote: post #23

I remember seeing a commercial for those things where they drafted the Top Chef brothers, and even in the commercial it looked extremely awkward to use. "Oh, let's just look up something...(walk over...bend down...glance at screen...slowly punch things in...)." Even if it were the best thing ever, I know technology and I know that fridges last years longer than any gadget ever has. Any choice of touchscreen, OS or ev…

I was recently in the market for a newer SUV and the thing that struck me about every single touchscreen jammed into them was how obsolete they would seem in the near future. Even now, they're clunky and unappealing visually. My microwave has a MyPlate.gov button on it. May have seemed like a good idea when our home's previous owner renovated back in 2011, but it's silly now. My "smart" TV has an app called WebVideos…

> My "smart" TV has an app called WebVideos on it, which does nothing but apologize for being shut down.

I wonder if the app was prepared for that or if some poor fellows are maintaining servers whose sole purpose is responding to you with this apology.

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