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Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by davidandgoliath »

kaishiro wrote: post #180
Osiris wrote: post #179

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GoDaddy doesn't make money on domains. They make money on the auxiliary services like email, hosting, etc.

Actually, it sounds like GoDaddy simply doesn't make money. "The company lost $143 million last year. Granted that's less than the $200 million it lost in 2013, and the $279 million lost in 2012 -- but GoDaddy admits it hasn't turned a profit since 2009..."[1] [1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/godaddy-ipo-to-value-company-at...

The 1.5 billion in debt is sort of brutal too. Either way, not my favorite provider. (I admit bias though, as I run a competing hosting co.)

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by bostonvaulter2 »

tenfingers wrote: post #45
caf wrote: post #10

I notice they're using Google Groups for mailing lists - how have people found Google Groups as a technical mailing list provider?

Horrid. Besides poor threading (I'm speaking about the UI itself), it's unbelievable how HEAVY google groups feels when loading and using their web interface. It's so sad to think that google groups was the best interface ever to nntp in the past when it took over dejanews. But it doesn't stop there. I had endless problems with regular subscribers ending up as junk. Likewise, as a subscriber, I had several issues in…

Do you prefer gmane's interface over google groups?

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by barbs »

logicallee wrote: post #64
barbs wrote: post #15

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I didn't believe you at first, but I just went to install it and...wow... https://imgur.com/a/o6cSW

I thought you were going to show a virus result - the screen you showed is very unambiguously an opt-in screen, it even has the term "Accept" (as opposed to some other word like next or install) making you look at it - if the text said something else you would be very likely to just click it. The button at the left 'skip' is also clear about your other option (if it said 'cancel' it would sound like you're aborting i…

Ambiguous or not, surely you can appreciate how ridiculous it is to be bundling closed-source malware with GPU-licensed open-source software, even if it is optional? It is precisely this kind of software that the GPL aims to protect against - people should be in control of their software, and not the other way round. The bundling of malware with Filezilla is so blatantly against the core ethos of GNU, and calls into question the morality of the creators/distributors of said software.

And the fact that it is so unexpected is what makes this misleading. You're installing open-source software, on a mac, no less. You're expecting the bottom-right button to continue the installation. I don't know how you can't see how easily it is for a user to accidentally install this malware.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by djeikyb »

logicallee wrote: post #133
djeikyb wrote: post #127

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The persons finds bundled malware acceptable. If they sell software, I'd like to avoid it. This is how I interpreted the question.

The person has clarified that they wanted to know if I ran a pertinent startup - nope! I don't have anything to do with a software download business model, I'm just a consumer. I install things all the time where I have to decline an offer, and I would never accidentally hit "Accept" under a giant picture of unrelated software. If you do google the specific thing being advertised (as I would if I wanted to know exact…

I'd previously assumed that all smart consumers aware of the near-universal malwareness of bundled software would despise this sort of thing. I'm glad to have my wrong premises exposed.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by tenfingers »

bostonvaulter2 wrote: post #182
tenfingers wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Horrid. Besides poor threading (I'm speaking about the UI itself), it's unbelievable how HEAVY google groups feels when loading and using their web interface. It's so sad to think that google groups was the best interface ever to nntp in the past when it took over dejanews. But it doesn't stop there. I had endless problems with regular subscribers ending up as junk. Likewise, as a subscriber, I had several issues in…

Do you prefer gmane's interface over google groups?

Yes. I just use a news reader via gmane. And via web, the "threaded view" is blazing fast.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Post by ta0967 »

k_bx wrote: post #104
ta0967 wrote: post #89

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google tries very hard to leave the impression that you must have a gmail/google/google+ (not sure, haven't had the misfortune of doing this for some time) account to subscribe.

I don't see a problem here, you can just get a gmail account and read mail however you like still, configuring mail client of choice. UPDATE: wow, didn't know you can't even read messages without being google-user. Yeah, that's boorish a bit. UPDATE2: turned out that's not true. You can read google group perfectly fine without signing in: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tmux-users

so you were misled and confused by google into thinking you need a google account, if only for a while. they try hard to manipulate people. do you see the problem now? yes, you can fight the stream of lies and misdirections, or you can say "thanks, but no, thanks".
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