Anyone know what laptop is being used in the pics to display the OS? Shit looks clean.
Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29
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Microsoft has stated that most of the money they make from Windows is from selling licenses to hardware partners. Of course, they are also starting to move into an Apple-like hardware model (though of course they still allow third parties to make hardware).
I don't see the Hardware Model at all. I think they are just wanting as many people as possible to switch to Windows 10 as fast as possible. They are doing this by giving it away for free. After the year Windows will be monotonized the same way. As someone that always builds his own comoputers I jumped on the $29.99 Windows 7 deal which they offered the first 6 months and $39.99 for Windows 8 which was good for the f…
> I don't see the Hardware Model at all.
They sell computers and mobile phones of their own design tailored for their own OS. The only difference is that they allow third party hardware and Apple doesn't.
> I think they are just wanting as many people as possible to switch to Windows 10 as fast as possible. They are doing this by giving it away for free.
I agree.
> After the year Windows will be monotonized the same way.
This doesn't seem to be consistent with their stated goals and the direction they've been moving in. The idea is that Windows 10 is the last numbered version of Windows, after that it will be evergreen. What upgrades are there to sell?
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#184can you reserve and then change your mind and not install or upgrade to Windowns 10?
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#185I have been running the technical previews since the very start and I have to say I am quite surprised at the July 29th release date. Even today's builds are riddled with problems. They have a lot of work to do if they really think it will be consumer ready by the end of July.
I'm a Mac user so I don't care too much. However, a lot of how Windows 10 will be perceived is from the online perception created. Most people in the world don't care about the little bugs, features, etc. They simply want to know if it's worth getting. If Windows 10 is reasonably good and tons of people upgrade from XP, for example, this will be a huge win for Microsoft and the entire community. If "reviewers" compla…
I just want to know when the next version of the Surface Pro is coming out!!
Other than that, I hope that one day Microsoft will do something to allow Unix folks to be more comfortable on Windows because I honestly don't like anything about OS X and I'm looking forward to a time when Unix lovers will flock to some other brand of hardware and OS. Anything but Apple.
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#186Has Microsoft said where their bitlocker feature will place in the edition tiers? It'd be nice to see it in the lower editions so that the 'common man' has access to reasoanble encryption in case their computer is lost/stolen
Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29
#187Why all of their screenshots are on laptops? Doesn't anyone use real computers anymore?
the sample laptop looks like a blacked out macbook pro too
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Certainly, browser extensions are important to some people. But do you believe that more than 1% of web browser users install and use one or more browser extensions?
If you include Flash and Silverlight? Uhh yes. Likely over 90% of browser users use one or more extension.
Edge supports Flash already, so if that's all that 90% of people use, it won't be a problem. And it's typically categorized as a "plug-in" rather than an extension, so I wouldn't lump it in with the extension functionality.
Not sure if it has Silverlight, but since we aren't streaming the 2008 Olympics and Netflix doesn't need it anymore I'm not terribly worried.
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Looks like you and I hit a nerve here on HN. You are right though. Microsoft will be shipping Windows 10 with an incomplete version of their new Edge browser with the promise of adding critical features such as extensions in the future. Basically Windows 10 won't really be feature complete RTM for another 6 months. Even if Microsoft want to pretend it is ready now. Edit: To clarify the "hit a nerve" bit, when I wrote…
iPhone shipped feature-incomplete yet people were screaming from the rafters about how awesome it was. Earth Shattering. MAGICAL! Gotta love the double standards...
The current Win10 builds are not even close to having the polish iPhone 1 had. There's all sorts of inconsistencies and screwed up stuff. Hell, just clicking on search settings doesn't even work (in true JS style even; it just does nothing, no error, no response).
OTOH, coming from Win8, where it's so much worse, Win10 is an improvement. After running I for months, a friend asked what was new. "Well they undid the Metro app fiasco, more or less. And console windows are now resizable. Font rendering is blurry in half the OS. And most settings are messed up and unusable until you manage to get into the "legacy" settings dialog. And uh... That's it?" Yeah they added a weak attempt at some new window management, but nothing super usable.
Anything is better than Win8, but Win7 users are not going to enjoy it. They'll probably prefer the old shell, with the new kernel extensions.
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Which "ring" of updates are you on? Fast (it's gonna break) or slow (it's gonna break less)?
I have both fast and slow ring installs. I have found many problems with both, more with fast obviously.
Yeah, for a couple months, they broke video for both VMware and VirtualBox. That is, 3D and 2D had severe issues. Couldn't auto resize, couldn't get the right resolution (just the standard presets), couldn't use 3D accel. It was only fixed in 10074. That's a long time to break a huge feature and it really worries me. VMware is probably the largest single piece of hardware used.
I've not had any BSODs, but the UI in general is poor and glitchy.