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Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by larrys »

joshu wrote: post #175
larrys wrote: post #40

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In an oddly related way this reminds me of a time prior to the Internet. In that era you would open up the Yellow Pages and call a company or a store and ask them if they "carried such and such widget". They would reply "no". You would then say "do you know of anyone who does" hoping for a tidbit of info or direction on who you could contact next. The person on the other end would inevitably tell you to, as if this w…

I wasn't being helpful. I was being insulting. I hope you consider taking this response the same way.

It is unclear why you would insult me for what I said.

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by jvrossb »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #130
mrbill wrote: post #53

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Way too many people dismiss sleep apnea. Folks, it can kill you - or cause other serious problems. In addition to narcolepsy, your general metabolism can get messed up too. I spent 4+ years not getting any REM sleep and my metabolism STILL suffers as a result - even 14 years after starting on CPAP and using it EVERY night since then. It's too long to go into here - but I did a writeup years ago about my "journey", al…

You're kind of freaking me out here. My dad tosses and turns, doesn't get much sleep, has to pee at night, wakes up in fear in the past often as I'd wake him up after I'd come running to his room at night because I heard crazy sounds of him gasping for air. He generally doesn't get super-tired during the day though, but he's not super active anymore and drinks his coffee still. Anyway he's seen a doctor many times, m…

He should get a sleep study done ASAP.

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by [deleted] »

meepmorp wrote: post #178
wiggumz wrote: post #174

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Is there any chance of foul play? Heart attacks can be induced, and usually there is someone around who knows CPR so this seems odd. People don't usually die from Heart attacks these days, especially not people who Have enough money to get excellent healthcare. Was there anything Goldberg was doing that was in any way connected to the spooks? Or could the US government have killed him in order to ensure compliance fr…

> Or could the US government have killed him in order to ensure compliance from someone close to Goldberg like the Facebook CEO? Are you seriously not aware how crazy this sounds to other people?

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Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by wiggumz »

meepmorp wrote: post #178
wiggumz wrote: post #174

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Is there any chance of foul play? Heart attacks can be induced, and usually there is someone around who knows CPR so this seems odd. People don't usually die from Heart attacks these days, especially not people who Have enough money to get excellent healthcare. Was there anything Goldberg was doing that was in any way connected to the spooks? Or could the US government have killed him in order to ensure compliance fr…

> Or could the US government have killed him in order to ensure compliance from someone close to Goldberg like the Facebook CEO? Are you seriously not aware how crazy this sounds to other people?

Sometimes I forget there are people like you don't know the first thing about American history or politics.

But then I remember that the TV doesn't tell you anything about what is really going on.

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by solipsism »

carc wrote: post #159
solipsism wrote: post #77

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Could we also stop acting like our girlfriend being a doctor makes us qualified to give medical advice? What evidence in particular, aside from your girlfriend, do you have for the claim that the groin exam for inguinal hernias is outdated? Is this subject in your girlfriend's field? What publications does she cite?

Here's what she pointed me to: http://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/Page/Topic/reco...

Is that a joke? "Turn your head and cough" isn't a testicular cancer screening. It's to search for signs of inguinal hernias.

You don't really have a doctor girlfriend, do you? :)

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by joshu »

larrys wrote: post #181
joshu wrote: post #175

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I wasn't being helpful. I was being insulting. I hope you consider taking this response the same way.

It is unclear why you would insult me for what I said.

Because you were both condescending and longwinded while missing the point.

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by derefr »

jacquesm wrote: post #115
dionidium wrote: post #111

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You're implying that MRI machines are 100% utilized and that any usage prevents some other usage. Surely that's not actually the case.

You don't need them to be 100% utilized, it's not the machines that are the problem but the technicians operating them and the doctors interpreting the results and so on. There is a whole team clustered around an MRI machine and tying up the machine is effectively tying up the team. If everybody got an MRI every year on the off chance they might have something then the machines would not be available to those that ac…

The idea, here, would be to make MRIs both cheaper, safer, and less trusted for their predictive power.

Imagine if you could get an MRI the way you currently get a blood pressure test or ultrasound or x-ray. Imagine a simplified MRI machine in every GP's office 40 years from now. Imagine the machine having a networked software layer integrated that doesn't even allow the raw static-image data out to the doctors, but instead just reports out weighted-average feature-change velocity heatmaps.

Presumably, the only people getting an MRI done every year now are the ridiculously rich, who could buy an MRI machine of their own, and a hospital wing to put it in. But the theory behind getting one isn't bad. It's just scarcity, and the effect scarcity has on the level of trust we put in the few samples we can beg, borrow or steal.

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by rudyy »

meepmorp wrote: post #178
wiggumz wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any chance of foul play? Heart attacks can be induced, and usually there is someone around who knows CPR so this seems odd. People don't usually die from Heart attacks these days, especially not people who Have enough money to get excellent healthcare. Was there anything Goldberg was doing that was in any way connected to the spooks? Or could the US government have killed him in order to ensure compliance fr…

> Or could the US government have killed him in order to ensure compliance from someone close to Goldberg like the Facebook CEO? Are you seriously not aware how crazy this sounds to other people?

And to the people sounds perfectly sane, and you sound crazy.

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by notacoward »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #67
mrbill wrote: post #53

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Way too many people dismiss sleep apnea. Folks, it can kill you - or cause other serious problems. In addition to narcolepsy, your general metabolism can get messed up too. I spent 4+ years not getting any REM sleep and my metabolism STILL suffers as a result - even 14 years after starting on CPAP and using it EVERY night since then. It's too long to go into here - but I did a writeup years ago about my "journey", al…

Another good question, do you wake up to urinate in the night? That was one of my indicators of my sleep disorder, as I sleep through the night now. I was diagnosed with sleep hypopnea, which is not as severe as sleep apnea. The difference between the two is how low your pulse ox falls while you have stopped breathing. I think my diagnosis was an artifact of the sleep study however because they didn't really let me s…

Waking up to urinate in the middle of the night could also mean that you're over 40 and probably male (though women often have the same issue for different reasons).

Re: Dave Goldberg, CEO of SurveyMonkey, has died

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Post by mreiland »

wpietri wrote: post #171
pen2l wrote: post #127

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No, what's shitty here is you twisting my words. I never said anything about illegal drug use . I have friends who were getting ADHD medicine (subscribed by a licensed psychiatrist), but had to stop because of heart problems. THIS IS COMMON. As I said, cardiovascular diseases are an amazingly big killer of life. That is what I'm talking about. I think it's an apt time to mention this -- people are emotionally engaged…

I did not twist your words. You also never said anything about legal drug use, so when I said "worst case" I was pointing out one end of a scale of possible interpretations. That you were talking about technically legal abuse of drugs is on the scale I describe. I stand by my point: either you were suggesting that drug abuse might be a factor here or you were bringing up something approximately irrelevant. Either way…

Of course you stand by your point, how often do you see people online not stand by their point. That would be the unusual thing.

It's been observed many times before that when someone online starts describing another persons stance as "either you X or you Y" they're generally involved in a false dichotomy.

So congratulations wpeitri, you're just like almost everyone else on the internet. You have an opinion and nothing will convince you otherwise.

Are you happy about that?

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