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Re: MSBuild is now open source on GitHub

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PR are not the place for jokes. Developers have enough to do managing their projects, they don't need to waste time sorting through jokes. You might say, "it's just one joke, what's the big deal?" One joke, attracts others. Everyone thinks they're funny and their joke with worth everyone else's time to read it. If PR become a place that's acceptable to make jokes, it'll be flooded with noise.

> PR are not the place for jokes. There's a well-established tradition of pull requests and issues being used for commentary and humor. Here's a selection. The first one is by the founder CEO of a company with a ~$1B valuation that's prepping for an IPO and is very similar to the one everyone here is complaining about. The second one has comments from a couple well-known tech folks. And so on... https://github.com/sa…

Yeah those were all unhelpful, trash. Our point exactly.

Re: MSBuild is now open source on GitHub

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Task running is more what Ant is for, isn't it? Maven is more of a dependency management tool than a task runner. A lot of Java projects use both tools together for builds. I've never used it, but MSBuild sounds like Microsoft's version of Ant to me.

MSBuild has a lot of Ant-yness to it, yes. However, I quibble with your definition of Maven as a dependency manager--it has one (and the independent implementation that can work with Maven repos is Apache Ivy) but I've never seen a Java project use both. Usually somebody jams some sort of runner into a Maven project as a different build step or something.

Usually somebody jams some sort of runner into a Maven project as a different build step or something

Like this? http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks/

Re: MSBuild is now open source on GitHub

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MSBuild has a lot of Ant-yness to it, yes. However, I quibble with your definition of Maven as a dependency manager--it has one (and the independent implementation that can work with Maven repos is Apache Ivy) but I've never seen a Java project use both. Usually somebody jams some sort of runner into a Maven project as a different build step or something.

Usually somebody jams some sort of runner into a Maven project as a different build step or something Like this? http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks/

If you're lucky. I've seen a lot more home-rolled ones in Java.

Re: MSBuild is now open source on GitHub

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Usually somebody jams some sort of runner into a Maven project as a different build step or something Like this? http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks/

If you're lucky. I've seen a lot more home-rolled ones in Java.

Yeah... I've also worked on corporate Java projects with no Ant, Maven, nor hand-rolled substitute, where the build process was to download the dependencies' jars from the internet manually into /lib.

Re: MSBuild is now open source on GitHub

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Do you run VS on your production servers? Why would I have any build system installed on a production server ?

For CI? Gotta run your builds somewhere, and a build agent is a production application.

What is CI?
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