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The Pirate Bay down, forever?

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Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#183
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> The ads were making millions Citation?

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/feb/05/pirate-sites-ad... Another citation: me, but not going to prove it. I am friends with an ad network TPB used. They made $10k daily from adware installers alone in 2013.

Exoclick was monetizing their traffic for a bit, not sure if that is still the case.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#184
post #57

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In your analogy, TPB acts as the middleman, hooking the user up with the supplier. Yes, when it comes to meth, that's illegal.

It's actually illegal to share instructions on how to make "controlled" substances? That sounds utterly abhorrent.

If it was instructions on how to make a movie, I don't think anyone would have a problem. But it's instructions on where to get illegal goods. It's not like the receiver is going through a recipe themselves like they're baking a cake.

Don't get me wrong; I torrent tv shows and the like. But what I find silly is the way people are trying to boil the intent and action away from torrenting, spin-doctoring it to sound as innocent as possible.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#185
post #176
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In your analogy, TPB acts as the middleman, hooking the user up with the supplier. Yes, when it comes to meth, that's illegal.

I was referring to the example of publishing a hash code for a torrent. So it's like saying "Someone told me that there is a drug dealer (haven't verified this myself) where if you add up the GPS coordinates of his house, divide by 317 and take the remainder, the result will be 42." It's not at all obvious that saying "42" (with the other operations unstated) is or should be illegal speech, and it's by no means compa…

I don't know about you, but when I go to TPB, I'm not greeted with a bunch of pages with nothing but simple low numbers. I'm greeted by a search engine, which shows me great lists of things by TV show name (for example), which I can click on and get taken to a page where someone describes what's on offer with this 'number', and other people comment on the quality. I can get the torrent hash, and also instructions on what to do with it. It's generally not something that needs to be verified very often, either.

And in any case, if someone says "hey, where can I get meth", and you say "42, just deconstruct the number with this algorithm", you've done the same thing as just handing over a phone number - you've facilitated the contact.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#186

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because information without conext is useless?

So someone shares the sequence without any context and someone else grabs it and conjectures the context themselves. What if they share positional information from a known sequence: pi[3000:3040].

you said yourself the sequence was insignificant, so i assume it would be hard to infere any context. either way, on tpb there is context. A pointer into pi is just a minor difference in encoding. As said in another comment, intent matters - as much as I dislike the pressumptions made about the intent. Law philosophically, for lack of better words, difficult questions of morallity arise and are indeed significant. That includes conciousness about the consequences, which is why this topic is debated at length, because everyone has a stake in it. That's a lot of context.

OTOH assume knlowedge of nothing but the magnet link list torrent file, if you just downloaded the linked torrent files without to procede to download when in doubt about copyright infringement, that woould not be careless.

Your argument extends to how can any string of data be illegal, putting copyright into question, but that's a different debate.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#187
post #33

Can anybody explain what's the fuzz regarding pirate bay? I mean, there are tons of good torrent sites and search engines everybody use every day... I don't even remember when I last time used TPB...

> Can anybody explain what's the fuzz regarding pirate bay? I mean, there are tons of good torrent sites and search engines everybody use every day...

Such as?

No, seriously. This is why TPB going down is a big deal. There are plenty of other trackers, but most people don't know about them, and Google makes them somewhat difficult to find. And, of course, the really good trackers are by invitation only.

So enlighten us poor heathens and share some links. :)

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#188
post #100

What is so special in TPB? I can't figure out. I have seen a dozen of better services. Any hidden feature I don't know?

What is so special in TPB? Everybody's heard of it, you didn't have to dig through obscure sites to find it, it was always there and always worked.

Hmm... now I got it.

Re: The Pirate Bay down, forever?

#190
post #33

Can anybody explain what's the fuzz regarding pirate bay? I mean, there are tons of good torrent sites and search engines everybody use every day... I don't even remember when I last time used TPB...

> Can anybody explain what's the fuzz regarding pirate bay? I mean, there are tons of good torrent sites and search engines everybody use every day... Such as? No, seriously. This is why TPB going down is a big deal. There are plenty of other trackers, but most people don't know about them, and Google makes them somewhat difficult to find. And, of course, the really good trackers are by invitation only. So enlighten…

Besides adding "torrent" word while googling, one good search engine is https://torrentz.eu/

From that, you can as well find about http://www.monova.org/ http://kickass.so/ etc...

Also, high quality sites, albeit in russian:

http://rutracker.org/

http://newstudio.tv/

http://www.lostfilm.tv/

http://nnm-club.me/ is also OK

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