Any idea when its available for download for consumers?
Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
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Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#182Having a package manager is one thing, having a good curated repo of packages is another. I doubt MS Will have the balls to say that all their "partners" (most of the AV vendors, Oracle, ...) whose entire business model is based on crapware or bait & switch will somehow be banned from the repo? Currently it seems that both the apt and choclatey versions of Java actually come without crapware. I have a feeling that if…
> Having a package manager is one thing, having a good curated repo of packages is another. So? Most open source distros have nothing but that -- all kinds of crap.
Distros have curated repos.
Launchpad and such are not curated.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#183Sorry, penguin lovers — if you thought that 2015, in the heinous wake of Windows 8, would finally be the year of desktop Linux, you were sadly mistaken. If you’ve ever ventured into the dark and mysterious land of Linutopia, where Ubutologists and Debianites reign, ... Wow what a snarky article! I guess Extremetech does not like Linux at all...
Nice. Windows which claims to be the default desktop OS copies a basic feature from the Linux "non-desktops" which is a command line package manager :-) Another irony is that software installation has been much easier and safer on prominent Linux systems like Debian, Suse and Ubuntu than on Windows for the last couple of years. Final irony is that I (and others) actually use Linux as a desktop system for more than tw…
>Windows which claims to be the default desktop OS copies a basic feature from the Linux "non-desktops" which is a command line package manager :-) //
There's nothing contradictory about that. Good features can come from the worst of software or the best. It's actually a positive change IMO that Microsoft would adopt a good feature in the facing of crowing like "they stole that from linux".
Of course the devil's in the detail; usually when I see something MS are doing and appreciate it they manage to royally confound it - here letting Oracle, and their ilk, install the crapware they currently trick inexperienced users in to having is probably going to be part of that.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sane and consistent are two words I would never use with Powershell. Well, it's consistently insane, but I imagine that's not a typo. Or-Do-You-Enjoy-Over-Verbose-Capitals-And-Dashes-As-You-Enjoy-Shift-Ballet?
You know, eg, Get-Process is `ps` and nearly every common command has two or three character aliases?
Aliases are the biggest enemy of consistency.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's bullocks, you're just changing definitions to suit your needs. Android is a mobile phone OS and as suchhas a marginal market share on desktop. Windows still has over 90% market share on desktop ( http://www.netmarketshare.com/ )
> you're just changing definitions to suit your needs. Same to you :-) Windows is also a mobile phone OS since Win 8.
You're saying:
* Android is a desktop OS
* Android has a market share way larger than Windows
* Therefore Android has overthrown Windows as a desktop OS
Which is completely false. Because on desktop Windows still has a ~90% market share.
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you're just changing definitions to suit your needs. Same to you :-) Windows is also a mobile phone OS since Win 8.
So, what exactly is your definition of a desktop system? If we're going to have this discussion we should get the agreement or disagreement over that definition out of the way. To me, it is a desktop computer. I'm inclined to include laptops in that definition as well. Basically, it's the kind of computer I'd use to get my computer work done at a desk, with as little regard to what exactly that work entails as possib…
Can you install Android on a desktop? Then it's not a desktop OS.
It's quite simple.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you're just changing definitions to suit your needs. Same to you :-) Windows is also a mobile phone OS since Win 8.
So, what exactly is your definition of a desktop system? If we're going to have this discussion we should get the agreement or disagreement over that definition out of the way. To me, it is a desktop computer. I'm inclined to include laptops in that definition as well. Basically, it's the kind of computer I'd use to get my computer work done at a desk, with as little regard to what exactly that work entails as possib…
So, if I have a keyboard on my tablet that is running Android?
I think the point here is that "desktop" as a location has no real meaning - it's the use case that defines it rely. By desktop system one really means a day-to-day used system that is used for word-processing, web browsing and other standard domestic/work uses (photo editing, spreadsheets, games and such). That's the stuff a desktop system has always done and now you can do that on a phone, phablet, tablet, laptop, desktop or whatever. The hardware form is just about convenience it [no longer] describes a logical difference or significant processing ability [eg my phone has about as much processing power as my desktop (ignoring the GPU), some phones definitely have more]
If you're using your phablet paired with a keyboard for the same uses as others use their [traditionally defined] desktop for then what use is the distinction?
Android can be used on the desktop, but IMO it's not tailored for that and so shouldn't be described as a desktop OS.
The whole "year of Linux on the desktop" thing is about market-share as much as anything; as other have said many people have been using it as a desktop OS for plenty of years.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, what exactly is your definition of a desktop system? If we're going to have this discussion we should get the agreement or disagreement over that definition out of the way. To me, it is a desktop computer. I'm inclined to include laptops in that definition as well. Basically, it's the kind of computer I'd use to get my computer work done at a desk, with as little regard to what exactly that work entails as possib…
Can you install Android on a desktop? Then it's not a desktop OS. It's quite simple.
Define "desktop" and we'll tell you. You can run Android on a base system that is connected to a standard desktop monitor, printer, mouse and keyboard.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just hope that oracle doesn't try to sneak install the ask toolbar with every update.
Is there a reason why we have fewer of those problems with Mac OS X? I can see that the Windows audience often isn't tech-savvy enough to understand that Ask isn't part of Windows, and that's probably also because Chrome/Firefox/Safari are more diligent about managing extensions than IE. But there's a very serious constant problem of spyware/adware in Windows that I don't feel exists in Mac OS X and Linux.
There's not just that, we just don't use installers in 99% of apps either, which makes installing toolbars tricky.
Re: Windows 10 will come with a command-line package manager
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is this... I don't even...
It's adding a debian-compatible repo (from Linux Mint Debian Edition) in order to replace Iceweasel (firefox without the branding) with Firefox (firefox with the branding). Firefox's branding is incompatible with Debian's licensing requirements, and they amicably split the branding years ago as a result. The example was intentionally selected to be as obfuscatory as possible, in order to be a troll. Most of those com…
Not to mention involves adding a GPG-backed repository, something that this Windows plae imitation can't do.