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Re: Plastc Card

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Faked video.

I downloaded it and went frame-by-frame and you can see the card display contents move around with changing margins. It's all CGI.

Not that it's inherently wrong to do simulations, but this is notable because they don't include a "this is a simulation" disclaimer (AFAICS).

Re: Plastc Card

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The ridiculous number of features on this card makes it really hard to believe that an unknown startup has the resources to pull it off in the form factor as thin as a credit card. Coin still hasn't gotten there yet (they claim it works at 85% of the locations they visited). Adding more features including wireless charging coils and unknown method for duplicating chip and pin makes me really skeptical that this will…

Also, the fact that their home page video features some poorly motion-tracked simulated display. That alone instills some fear in me that this is just complete vaporware.

Of course it is vaporware. They're trying to prove the market exists, sell the product up front, then go build it. Will it ever ship or be remotely as thin and svelte as this mockup? I'm guessing no, but if they pull it off, kudos.

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I'm calling shenanigans after reading their specs. Here are my reasons: NFC + EMV secure elements are issued by banks and can't be reprogrammed. You can't switch between them on the fly. You can only house "multiple" EMVs if you can by some grace of god magic convince the different banks, and Amex to take your card to their facility and program it with their secure info and then give it back to you. E-ink displays ar…

"E-ink displays are WAY thicker than they can fit in there" No, I have in my pocket a PayPal Security Key: it is the same size and thickness and flexibility as a credit card, yet it houses an e-paper display: https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-i... They have been on the market for 5+ years, so the technology is there. Plastc has a bigger display, but there is no doubt it can fit in a credit ca…

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Re: Plastc Card

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Interesting that the list of banks is nearly the same as that of ApplePay. I'm glad there are some forward-thinking enough banks willing to push technology forward.

Or they just found a way to implement ApplePay on their card.

The card connects to your iPhone (for proximity detection) perhaps the card accesses Apple Pay on your phone when making the transaction therefore your phone needs to be in your pocket while inputting the chip and pin? Just a thought.

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The microcontroller, smart card interface, eInk screen, bluetooth capability (including antenna), NFC (including antenna), and touch screen all seem reasonable and there isn't anything earth shattering tech wise (but probably a customized asic using off the shelf bits). Connecting this all together on some fiberglass or plastic substrate is hard, and expensive to tool for (I'd expect), but definitely possible. The in…

In the tech specs they claim a 30-day charge. No other details. I wonder if that's the equivalent of a cellphone "standby" spec.

Well, E-ink uses very little battery. The e-reader I use has to be charged only every other month or every month if I read more often. But then again this little card couldn't have a very powerful battery in it.

Re: Plastc Card

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Faked video. I downloaded it and went frame-by-frame and you can see the card display contents move around with changing margins. It's all CGI. Not that it's inherently wrong to do simulations, but this is notable because they don't include a "this is a simulation" disclaimer (AFAICS).

Sometimes it's necessary to make sure screen contents are legible in a video. You can see someone doing it for the app demo video here: https://medium.com/@djfumberger/lets-make-a-promo-d32e15d574...

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I can't help to think this and Coin are each a solution in search of a problem. Do you know many people that use more than 3 cards regularly? If the norm was to have so many cards they barely fit in your wallet this would be perfect.

It claims to support RFID, so I wouldn't have to carry my work door card. I'd strongly consider that.

Would your work let you put your details in a phone to be synced to a device like this?

Plus most door cards are 125Khz and NFC/credit cards etc use 13.5Mhz so I wouldn't expect it to be compatible.

Re: Plastc Card

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What need does this address? Are cards taking up too much room in people's lives? This solution doesn't reduce the height or width of the encumbrance at all, and reduces the depth only by n*.76mm, where n is the number of cards that will be replaced. I don't get it. Also, http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TheZenOfProgramming

I think this improves things, but I don't know why the focus isn't on a phone, which people are already carrying. In an ideal world, everything else I carry in my front pockets and wallet could be handled by my phone - keys, money, business cards, receipts, credit cards, loyalty cards, ID, etc.

Re: Plastc Card

#189
Seems like most people who will opt for "payments 2.0" will just wait for Apple Pay and Google Wallet to be more mainstream. Especially with wearables in the mix.

Re: Plastc Card

#190
Cool at first glance but I do have skeptical questions:

(1) Durability was my biggest question -- how much flex and bend can this thing survive? How about being chewed on by a toddler, put through the washer and dryer (high heat), taken into a hot tub by mistake, dropped and stepped on with hard-sole shoes, etc.

(2) Ditto the other skeptical questions re: chip and pin.

(3) How big is the niche for this? I mean, I only have one debit card I use routinely and one credit card I use rarely. Carrying two plastic cards is not that big of a deal. I wouldn't pay $155 just to merge them into one card that can run out of battery power.

(4) Speaking of recharge... now there's another device I need to plug in or otherwise mate with some kind of charger? No thanks.

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