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Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by slantyyz »

pling wrote: post #35
watty wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You bought a used laptop which is slower, no touch screen, digitizer, pen, Windows 8, SSD, etc. That's like comparing an old Blackberry to the iPhone 5. There's really no reason to try and compare them.

I don't use a touch screen or a pen. It's fully supported on windows 8 and I stuck my Samsung 840 Pro in it. It does however have a decent keyboard, a trackpoint, 3G card, a service reputation and a bomb proof chassis. All of which reduce the ownership risk and make my day slightly better.

>> I don't use a touch screen or a pen.

Simply put, the Surface Pro isn't designed for people with your use case. And more likely than not, your laptop isn't useful for the people MS had in mind for the Surface Pro.

Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by iaskwhy »

dgarrett wrote: post #170
iaskwhy wrote: post #148

For reference: Surface Pro 3: 12" @ 2160x1440 => 216 PPI MacBook Air 11": 11.6" @ 1366x768 => 135 PPI MacBook Air 13": 13.3" @ 1440x900 => 128 PPI MacBook Pro 13" (Retina): 13.3" @ 2560x1600 => 227 PPI (Rumor) MacBook Air 12" (Retina): 12" @ 2304x1440 => 226 PPI

Don't forget the horrors of Windows high DPI scaling. Poor, blurry Google Chrome. Edit: I was inspired to look into it a little more, and it looks like Chrome does have high-DPI support: https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chrom... It has to be enabled by a registry key and seems to break Chrome's notification tray icon.

I was actually thinking about asking that, I have no idea how things will look at such high resolutions. I do use Windows on a Macbook Air 13" and it's pretty much retina to me but I'm getting old, I don't think I'll recognise a pixel anymore during the upcoming years. :)

Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by slantyyz »

agscala wrote: post #8

This sure is a bummer for people who recently bought a Surface Pro 2 (like me). It's unreal that a 6-month old $1200 machine already is outdated

As with anything tech related, your machine is outdated the day you buy it.

Having said that, it doesn't mean your Surface Pro 2 is useless. It's still a great device with power to spare... for most people.

Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by [deleted] »

rschmitty wrote: post #94
pjmlp wrote: post #67

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Properties -> Settings -> Layout -> change res -> Save. I never understood why some people make such a big fuss out of it.

Because that is a huge fuss to do what practically every other app can easily do by dragging the border, including other windows apps. Sometimes you need to change your prompt to be a different size and an annoying 5 step thing is a big fuss

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Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by MBCook »

justin66 wrote: post #123
iandanforth wrote: post #104

Warning, rant. Why the duck isn't there information on the Surface Pro 3 on the MS website? Apple has done this so well, for so long, I am pissed-off MS can't get its act together. You make an announcement, you need presence on the web. You need to start your customers expectations building, whet their appetite, and tease them. Their experience starts now and right now that experience is reading news articles and rea…

> Apple has done this so well, for so long, I am pissed-off MS can't get its act together. Apple doesn't pre-announce products at all, do they? This was sloppy (Microsoft is going to have something up for preorders tomorrow, why not just put it up when the speech is finished?) but it's not something Apple even does.

As soon as Apple's press event is done, anything they've announced is up on their site to read about or often buy.

Is MS announces something, you should be able to go to microsoft.com to read about it.

Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by tkmcc »

nmolo wrote: post #101

The only downside to this is the HD 4400 graphics unit. [1] I'm worried about it running everything smoothly at 2k. The HD 5000 is much better suited to run at that resolution. [1] http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/download/presskits/surfa...

My Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus has a HD 4400 graphics unit and runs fine at 3200 x 1800, so you shouldn't have to worry unless you're doing something pretty graphically intensive.

Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by anigbrowl »

mhurron wrote: post #41
IBM wrote: post #23

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They've kind of killed this whole angle of "Surface is for getting work done" after they hedged by releasing Office on iPad.

Office isn't the only thing people use to 'get work done.' One of the reasons I'm planning to get a Surface Pro instead of a Android tablet or a iPad is it is a full, real windows OS on an intel processor. I can install and run ALL my existing Windows applications on it. For me it's more of a light laptop then a limited tablet device.

Same here. Although I still think it's a bit overpriced, being able to leverage a bunch of existing software and hardware products in a highly portable format is a big win.

Re: Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 3

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Post by LaikaF »

freehunter wrote: post #152
mrec wrote: post #116

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Not disagreeing, but I suspect notepad.exe is the way it is for a reason - it's the Windows equivalent of vi, the thing you use to try to recover when everything else is falling to pieces. As such, it doesn't and shouldn't have dependencies on anything that isn't absolutely essential. I believe Task Manager eschews the common control library and reimplements a lot of UI stuff itself. Same reason.

I still can't believe that a hung program means the Task Manager can hang as well. I don't know how many times I've had a game freeze and had to wait on the Task Manager. Ctrl+alt+del brings up the "lock, log off, task manager" screen pretty quick, then Task Manager doesn't load until I go make and finish eating dinner.

Ctrl- Shift - Esc

It puts you straight into processes tab and can be done with one hand.

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