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Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by dorfsmay » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 2:37 AM UTC

Crito wrote: post #94

cones688 wrote: post #74

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> I would but I love APT As a near 100% RHEL/Fedora user I am always wondering if there is anything but a material difference between apt and yum? From using Ubuntu extensively a few years ago they seem to have near identical feature set?

Only differences that I have noticed and cared about as a home user: Yum lets you do `yum search` but Apt splits that off with `apt-cache` (this is annoying because with yum I can just swap out that 'search' with my line editor). Apt tends to be faster for equivalent operations.

Use aptitude.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by tyleregeto » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 2:47 AM UTC

jafaku wrote: post #134

tyleregeto wrote: post #54

I'm one of the heavy users of this. It integrates with all my devices better than other options. Google Still hasn't released a Linux client and the dropbox app has been very flakey for me in Ubuntu. I've set my phone camera pics auto sync to all my devices. All my music and photos are backed up with Ubuntu One. When I upgrade my OS version, I sync all important files here. When I switched jobs late last year, my mus…

> and the dropbox app has been very flakey for me in Ubuntu What do you mean? I used it for years on both Ubuntu and Fedora, never had an issue.

To be honest, its been a long time (years) since I've given it a serious try. I had problems in the top bar, it wouldn't start up properly, often freezing, and I would get errors frequently trying to access it. I don't know if these errors were with the drop box client or on my end.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by plywoodtrees » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 4:35 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #8

[deleted] wrote: post #4

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It's quite different honestly. Google is a services company, and they make you eat advertising everyday to support their products. Ubuntu provides an OS for free (you can turn off the Amazon nonsense anyway) and storage was just an icing on the cake - it was never a key component of their strategy.

Selling services to users through UbuntuOne was a key component of their strategy at the time it was announced.

Source http://thevarguy.com/ubuntu/rethinking-canonical039s-ubuntu-..., various statements by Mark Shuttleworth, etc.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by s_husso » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 5:52 AM UTC

amatix wrote: post #138

tyleregeto wrote: post #54

I'm one of the heavy users of this. It integrates with all my devices better than other options. Google Still hasn't released a Linux client and the dropbox app has been very flakey for me in Ubuntu. I've set my phone camera pics auto sync to all my devices. All my music and photos are backed up with Ubuntu One. When I upgrade my OS version, I sync all important files here. When I switched jobs late last year, my mus…

For Google Drive, inSync works well on Linux: https://www.insynchq.com/linux (and supports multiple accounts which GDruve doesn't support on any platform)

thanks :) I Recently switched from Dropbox to GDrive and this looks like a really functional app. Have to give it a go.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by igravious » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 6:04 AM UTC

Canonical should buy Dropbox and integrate. That'd give others (The Goog, AAPL, MSFT) pause for thought and give the Ubuntu folk a key differentiator versus the other Linux Distros. If they can't afford it they should figure out how to afford it. Beg, borrow or steal :)

That's my .02€

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by cben » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 6:32 AM UTC

bashinator wrote: post #124

Crito wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only differences that I have noticed and cared about as a home user: Yum lets you do `yum search` but Apt splits that off with `apt-cache` (this is annoying because with yum I can just swap out that 'search' with my line editor). Apt tends to be faster for equivalent operations.

dpkg -S /some/file # tells you what package provides that file dpkg -L some-package # lists all the files provided by a package apt-get search # lists all package names matching

$ apt-get search foo E: Invalid operation search

It's apt-cache search, and it searches full descriptions, not just package names.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by brongondwana » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 7:36 AM UTC

igravious wrote: post #185

Canonical should buy Dropbox and integrate. That'd give others (The Goog, AAPL, MSFT) pause for thought and give the Ubuntu folk a key differentiator versus the other Linux Distros. If they can't afford it they should figure out how to afford it. Beg, borrow or steal :) That's my .02€

They'll need a lot of people at .02€ to kickstarter[1] their way to pay $10bn[2].

[1] https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge [2] http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2323882/dropbox-valued-at-usd...

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by ta_ackack » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 8:07 AM UTC

It was expected this kind of ubuntu branded services were not going to last long. From its early beginning ubuntu has been pointed out for lacking a foreseeable long term future, being a nice experiment funded by a donation from the personal fortune of a rich guy,which will eventually run out.

Ubuntu one felt like an experimentation from Ubuntu to bring some money in, in hope to somehow contribute money to fund itself for lack of a better business model. It makes sense to kill the experimentations that don't bring enough profit while consuming precious resources.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by ta_ackack » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 8:07 AM UTC

It was expected this kind of ubuntu branded services were not going to last long. From its early beginning ubuntu has been pointed out for lacking a foreseeable long term future, being a nice experiment funded by a donation from the personal fortune of a rich guy,which will eventually run out.

Ubuntu one felt like an experimentation from Ubuntu to bring some money in, in hope to somehow contribute money to fund itself for lack of a better business model. It makes sense to kill the experimentations that don't bring enough profit while consuming precious resources.

Re: Shutting down Ubuntu One file services

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Post by 72deluxe » Thu, Apr 03, 2014, 8:18 AM UTC

72deluxe wrote: post #175

tyleregeto wrote: post #54

I'm one of the heavy users of this. It integrates with all my devices better than other options. Google Still hasn't released a Linux client and the dropbox app has been very flakey for me in Ubuntu. I've set my phone camera pics auto sync to all my devices. All my music and photos are backed up with Ubuntu One. When I upgrade my OS version, I sync all important files here. When I switched jobs late last year, my mus…

Google Drive's app on Mac is rubbish. No progress indication for uploads - yes! that basic feature is missing. You just get a tiny icon in the menu bar that flickers to indicate progress, and you are none the wiser. Google really are the "me too" company.

Why the downvotes? Surely a program that is meant to be uploading and downloading and keeping directories in sync with an external system over a variable speed link (my Internet connection) needs to indicate what it is doing and how far along it is in doing that? A "I'm doing it!" indication isn't enough, because if I shut down the Mac and wander off and expect to have files on Drive but it had finished uploading, I have no way of knowing which of many (possibly huge) files it had uploaded. I have to guess.

The web interface gives a progress indication, so why not the native application? It's very very poor.