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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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There have been countless research papers on this topic, so I doubt it -- http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=dynamic+memory+com... . Not to mention the fact that RAM compression was quite common back in the DOS/Win95 days: http://oreilly.com/centers/windows/feat/softram/dblscan.html

Yes, and that's exactly what makes it curious. It's a technology who's always been "known", but no modern operating system has bothered implementing it. Now we got two major OS shipping it at the same time, and I can't even see a correlation with a change of hardware (i.e. i can't see RAM being lately more scarce on PCs or Macs to the point of making this feature more useful than, say, 2 years ago, or 4 years ago, or…

I think it's the opposite (that it is at least in part more RAM that is driving this)

If you're going to end up swapping to disk most of the time anyway, the feature doesn't seem to be very useful. But with much faster CPUs, "many core" CPUs where your apps often won't manage to take advantage of the CPUs, and cheap RAM making lots of people buy huge amounts, the "cost" of using compression to offset swapping to disk seems to have dropped substantially, and the chance of avoiding swapping to disk entirely seems to have increased.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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No, it's not released. The release is imminent. Ubuntu is developed in the open, so you get to see candidate release images on the page linked. Ubuntu is not released until the release is announced. If you're in doubt, expect to see an announcement on the ubuntu-announce mailing list, or its archive at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ Also see #ubuntu-release-party on Freenode. At the moment, the to…

Did anybody notice the zsync download links, next to the Torrent links? Anybody have experience with zsync downloads? Is it supposed to update a previous 13.10 Beta ISO, or any previous ISO, e.g. the 13.04 release? http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ Also, I wonder why they don't use magnet links instead of torrent files.

zsync can update any file, even an empty one (just rename it to the target file name). However, I am not sure how much you would actually save by using older ISOs.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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ripb "All of your complaints seem to be about the defaults." Only one of five is a default issue and I even declared it a default issue and how I go around defaults. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the…

> 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) Defaults. Kubuntu developers have said that they will not be using Mir. Thus I expect X/Wayland to be available in the repositories and used by default by alternative flavours. > 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. Defaults. Alternat…

How is any of this a default issue it is a philosophy issue:

1. Mir they shouldn't do this. Again Philosophy.

2. Unity they shouldn't follow OS X lead. Again Philosophy.

4. Software Center - It is where you BUY programs and magazines. It is not a default it is how they run the business. Again Philosophy.

5. SDK is another HUGE philosophy issue. This write for Ubuntu is not Linux friendly. Again Philosophy.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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> Ubuntu is developed in the open Though mostly "open", but not developed entirely in the right free software / open source spirit of community involvement and upstream contributions.

There is no "right" free software/open source spirit of community involvement. It begins and ends with the licenses used, full stop. Beyond that no one has any right to say how other people should run their projects. If they don't like it, they can fork it thanks to the licensing, but even when that happens it doesn't mean that the original maintainers were somehow less free software/open source.

You're an idiot.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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The main feature I'm looking forward to is zswap in kernel 3.11 [1]. Basically instead of swapping, the kernel will first compress infrequently used pages in RAM, which is orders of magnitude faster than swapping to disk. The practical effect of this is basically the same as a free RAM upgrade! [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/537422/

The compression feature is in 12.04 LTS too. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/zram-config

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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I guess I should stop using my Debian machines where I did an install in previous decades (decades, plural) and copied the setup from hard drive to hard drive across several physical machine rebuilds. Up to now I had no idea that this never works smoothly.

If you're the sort of person that likes to try out stuff from different places, including compiled binaries, non-repo packages, and other fun stuff, eventually stuff will break. A lot of desktop pieces of software have config files that keep changing. I've found that keeping your old /home around and a copy of installed packages works well enough for most situations.

Actually I do keep around a few old binaries, and I have more often seen something else: software that no longer compiles with a modern compiler, but the binary I built in 2000 still works.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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post #164

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So?

We're talking about Ubuntu here - that was my point. I've been upgrading Ubuntu Desktop for years (a decade, singular) and I've always been struggling - especially if I ventured to install an alpha and then keep upgrading that. Compared to OS X, on which I always upgrade to the first Developer Preview and keep upgrading on, although OS X comes with problems, too, the GM usually fixes it all up. With Ubuntu, it's best…

And my point was that you shouldn't let one distro's failures set your expectations so low that this is acceptable and normal.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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post #113
post #70

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> Ubuntu is developed in the open Though mostly "open", but not developed entirely in the right free software / open source spirit of community involvement and upstream contributions.

There is no "right" free software/open source spirit of community involvement. It begins and ends with the licenses used, full stop. Beyond that no one has any right to say how other people should run their projects. If they don't like it, they can fork it thanks to the licensing, but even when that happens it doesn't mean that the original maintainers were somehow less free software/open source.

"Beyond that no one has any right to say how other people should run their projects."

You have a right to say whatever you want.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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post #75
post #61

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How does Ubuntu with LXDE compare with Xubuntu (another lightweight desktop environment)?

To preface - The PCs I work on at home and work are fairly decent - Intel i7 Haswell, 16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD, so it's not like my using it because my PC is old. LXDE has some usability issues (such as random glitches, which seems to be mostly resolved since 13.04) over XFCE or other desktop environments but I find it quite a joy to use, especially as I work on a single monitor but have multiple workspaces which I can…

How about a tiling manager like i3 or awesome?
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