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Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by anotherbadlogin »

zobzu wrote: post #127
aktau wrote: post #27

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Yea, I also noticed that, save for the pages with tons of images, firefox has actually been better than chrome in that respect for the last few releases. Now with this fix, I'm seriously thinking of jumping back. Then I'll finally have my sweet DownThemAll again. Many kudos to the firefox devs, performance and memory-usage is very important, and it seems they realized that before it was too late. Even with my 16GB I'…

im using windows and the regular firefox (so it doesnt have this fix) and i notice that chromium always scrolls a lot slower than firefox anyway. which annoys me hehe.

"im"?

And what happened to your Shift keys?

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by option_greek »

sliverstorm wrote: post #102
devcpp wrote: post #94

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I too wish it had split processes (although I haven't had a freeze in months), but other than that it beats Chrome in every single way. I am not affected by your UI problems, and I install extensions every other week so I'm not bothered. So, yeah, I guess you didn't really try. Perhaps you're just attached to Chrome.

Maybe multi-process is the reason... I've recently started using Chrome more on my sub-notebook because Firefox gets really choppy even though it has lower memory usage. Perhaps the explanation is Chrome can be scheduled to all four of my 1GHz CPU cores, as compared to Firefox which will be on just one?

Nope. Threads can use multiple cores as well. No need to launch separate process for it.

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by option_greek »

Peaker wrote: post #149
wodenokoto wrote: post #135

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Bookmarks bar is hidden by default. Don't complain about your own customization. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fx/?utm_source=firefox...

Correct, however: 1) Chrome's behavior where you get bookmarks bar in new tabs is far more useful. 2) Even without the bookmarks' bar, I have 4 bars (window decorations, menu bar, tab bar, URL bar), whereas Chrome has 2 (tab bar + window decorations, URL bar). Screen-space is still wasted compared to Chrome, and you don't get bookmarks in new tabs.

May be you should go for speed dial extension. It lets you set bookmarks in a newly opened tab. Just open new tab and click on the required bookmark.

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by canadev »

CrazedGeek wrote: post #125
ChickeNES wrote: post #122

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Oh my fucking god, where can I get this?

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... You can move the nav buttons yourself: right click on a toolbar -> Customize.

I got the addon working, but I can't seem to make the nav and the title bar collapse. Does this only work in the unstable builds?

I wonder if this is not available on my platform (MacOS).

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by sliverstorm »

option_greek wrote: post #182
sliverstorm wrote: post #102

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Maybe multi-process is the reason... I've recently started using Chrome more on my sub-notebook because Firefox gets really choppy even though it has lower memory usage. Perhaps the explanation is Chrome can be scheduled to all four of my 1GHz CPU cores, as compared to Firefox which will be on just one?

Nope. Threads can use multiple cores as well. No need to launch separate process for it.

Ah yes, of course. I should have remembered that. So Firefox is multi-threaded now?

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by epsylon »

cpeterso wrote: post #166
Derbasti wrote: post #38

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For me, it is time. I switched back about a year ago, when Firefox started to not be painful any more, but still was a step back from Chrome. Some tabs would still cause stuttering in the whole app and sometimes scrolling was less than smooth. These days however, I have not noticed any of these things for months in Firefox. Really I can't recommend it enough!

> For me, it is time. I switched back about a year ago, when Firefox started to not be painful any more, but still was a step back from Chrome. What was the tipping point that prompted you to switch back to Firefox? Was Firefox able to import your Chrome history and bookmarks without losing anything?

For history and bookmarks, I use xmarks to synchronize between Firefox and Chrome, on various machines. It works great.

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by Peaker »

caipre wrote: post #165
Peaker wrote: post #149

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Correct, however: 1) Chrome's behavior where you get bookmarks bar in new tabs is far more useful. 2) Even without the bookmarks' bar, I have 4 bars (window decorations, menu bar, tab bar, URL bar), whereas Chrome has 2 (tab bar + window decorations, URL bar). Screen-space is still wasted compared to Chrome, and you don't get bookmarks in new tabs.

Have you used Firefox's pinned tabs[1]? I have just two bars[2] for either browser, enough real-estate for me (wish I had a high resolution though). [1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/pinned-tabs-keep-favori... [2]: http://i4.minus.com/i4lX5yMWuwoGi.png

Again, Firefox has no portable way to remove window decorations like Chromes does. There are Windows-only extensions, KDE-only extensions, and unreliable Gnome extensions.

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by Peaker »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #76
Peaker wrote: post #68

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Last I tried Firefox, pretty recently, it still needed to address some serious issues, when compared to Chrome: * Unresponsiveness due to one tab thrashing * Bad use of screen-space (bookmarks always visible, cannot disappear titlebar like in Chrome [there's only a Windows extension for that], menu-bar takes up another bar of space by default) * Launching firefox has stop-the-world behavior to check/update extensions…

* to remove application title bar in KDE - Alt+F3 > More Actions > No border * to disable addon auto-update check - about:addons > wrench: uncheck "update addons automatically" With browsers I think it's easy to become entrenched; not that that's necessarily bad.

I'm not in KDE, I'm in Mate which has no such feature by default.

Thanks for the second tip, if I try Firefox again I'll do that. Is it possible to get auto-updates at browser shutdown or in the background, when it doesn't interrupt my flow? I would probably forget to ever update them if it's completely disabled...

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by option_greek »

canadev wrote: post #184
CrazedGeek wrote: post #125

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https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta... You can move the nav buttons yourself: right click on a toolbar -> Customize.

I got the addon working, but I can't seem to make the nav and the title bar collapse. Does this only work in the unstable builds? I wonder if this is not available on my platform (MacOS).

Even I got the same result. But this seem to do the job: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-caption-...

Edit: aah got it. The OP mentioned that you have to use 'Nav bar on title bar' extension along with tree style tabs.

Re: Firefox fixes save gigabytes of memory on image-heavy pages

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Post by ward »

derengel wrote: post #175
tikhonj wrote: post #155

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Firefox's screen usage is easy to configure. Compare[1] my KDE-themed Firefox and Chrome, for example. [1]: http://jelv.is/browser-screen-usage.png Extensions require a restart to be installed, perhaps, but that doesn't seem to be a big issue: you only install any given extension once. If you want to install a bunch at the same time, you only need to restart once.

I see fonts for web browsing in linux are still horrible.

That's actually Hacker News being terrible. Their font declaration is just "font-family: Verdana;" so if you don't have Verdana installed (which just about never is installed by default on Linux), it defaults back to the one mentioned in the browser settings (which tends to be a serif font).

Hacker News could've made their font declaration have a fallback (like "font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;") and things would look way better by default.

As for me, I solved it by editing userContent.css and adding a font-declaration for Hacker News myself. (or you could use something like the Stylish addon)

All in all, I'd say it's the fault of website creators.

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