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Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#181
post #164

Apparently, we can't use the name "Tox": http://tox.readthedocs.org/ Here are the most liked alternatives proposed on anther thread: tala whispr mila aspis orwell nota extasi eave fabula

tala: I'm guessing you know it means 'lock' in Hindi? http://translate.google.com/#en/hi/lock

Also "[to] speak" in Swedish, and in certain Norwegian dialects, one of the official written forms of Norwegian[1], and in the old Norse language.

[1] it's complicated.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#182
post #80

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I can't think of a real-time streaming multimedia application that uses TCP. It probably exists, but nobody uses it; it's simply easier and more efficient to deal with lossy formats over a medium that doesn't care about data loss. (Note that I said real-time. Buffering is fine for one-way communication, lousy for conversations)

For text chat TCP works perfectly fine. IRC and XMPP are the prime examples.

Actually TCP is a problem for IRC because there's no (standard) way to query how much data has been received (well, acknowledged) by the other end. This is why if you're unexpectedly disconnected from an IRC bouncer while in a busy channel, the replay can still be incomplete.

Lag is also a pig sometimes.

Datagram protocols are just more natural for message-oriented communication.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#183

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An hour in, a complaint about icon-plagiarism-via-anonymous-bikeshedding-session is still the top comment on HN for a software project with ambitious technical goals. That in itself is a strong argument for doing one's own work and creating original icons. Assuming for the sake of discussion that Tox is or could be a technically superior solution, do they really want that obscured by this sort of extraneous bullshit?…

TOX is just the project name. The product name is yet to be decided. This is still a pretty heavy argument about it on the 4Chan threads.

tox = talks because tox sounds like talks.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#184
post #130

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You can trademark using a round M for burgers, but that doesn't get you the trademark for banks. Witness Apple Records and Apple Computers. In this case, the products/ideas are straight-up competitors.

Only Apple go so far as to take such petty things to court. Most of their law suits can be generalised as "It looks similar from this side of the room"

I think I'm safe in assuming when you say "Only Apple" you mean Apple Computers. However, it was actually Apple Records who sued Apple Computers, not the other way around.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#185

Oh, I see you helped yourselves to my Secure Chat logo - http://dribbble.com/shots/479881-Secure-Chat http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/165288 https://www.google.ca/search?q=secure+chat+logo - first page hit too Not cool at all, "cool guys around the world". -- (edit) Regardless of whether this was copied, over-inspired or independently conceived (but let's be realistic here), the generally accepted rule of the game…

I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was independently conceived - When http://identity.com designed their first logo they found out both Stide's iD gum and one other company (That I can't recall off hand) both had the exact same logo - Not just insanely similar as in this case - but the exact same.

Either way - hope you and Tox come to an agreeable solution. For what it's worth I like your spin on it better :-)

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#186
Can anyone convince me why I should contribute to this project when I can already use the following?: [[bitmessage.org][Bitmessage]] [[freenetproject.org][Freenet with a chat client]] [[gnunet.org][GNUnet with chat]] [[i2p2.de][I2P-Messenger]] [[retroshare.sf.net][RetroShare]]

PS You could also apply a simple Icecast and/or MPD video stream under those proctols, even [[stomp.github.io][STOMP]].

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#187
post #131
post #122

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Stop being a baby. Someone even commented on your post that they had the same idea months ago. But instead of whining about it, he shrugged it off and said "Great minds must think alike." The current Tox logo wasn't even the first proposed logo with the chat bubble/padlock idea. There were a lot of other ones. People were taking the idea from other logos and improving it. That's innovation. You weren't the first one…

It came from the 4chan side.

It being what?

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#189

Oh, I see you helped yourselves to my Secure Chat logo - http://dribbble.com/shots/479881-Secure-Chat http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/165288 https://www.google.ca/search?q=secure+chat+logo - first page hit too Not cool at all, "cool guys around the world". -- (edit) Regardless of whether this was copied, over-inspired or independently conceived (but let's be realistic here), the generally accepted rule of the game…

Did you trademark your logo in any way? If not, your claim has no legal ground.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

#190
post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An hour in, a complaint about icon-plagiarism-via-anonymous-bikeshedding-session is still the top comment on HN for a software project with ambitious technical goals. That in itself is a strong argument for doing one's own work and creating original icons. Assuming for the sake of discussion that Tox is or could be a technically superior solution, do they really want that obscured by this sort of extraneous bullshit?…

It'd be nice if HN allowed us to collapse entire conversations. Maybe with a TL;DR summary. [+] [137 messages] "Bunch of people arguing about logo copyright & design for an open-source project."

You better trademark/patent/copyright that idea right there before somebody does it and "steal" your precious work :)
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