So basically they admit that Google has better designers ? Not surprised really. What's next, iGlasses ?
iOS 7
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Re: iOS 7
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is not a fair response to the industry in my opinion. iOS 7 is not just "flat" - at the risk of sounding like a fanboy, it's so much more than that. You're judging it based on the most obvious first impression - the icons and such. Those can be improved, yes (especially Safari's...) but you're not reviewing the actual interface. I'm typing this comment on iOS 7 and I assure you it feels smoother. There are kinks…
As another user of iOS 7, one of those kinks - the "new" keyboard is only available in Messages.
It's on all of the new Apple apps that are included - just not any 3rd party ones.
Re: iOS 7
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Err. They also have placed imagery and video of it all over their (general, not developer) pages for iOS. They've provided high res imagery and video for the media. It's effectively introduced. And I say that as someone now running iOS 7 and OSX 10.9. I see a lot of potential in both, but iOS needs a fair amount of polishing.
I read there are still a huge number of show-stopping bugs in iOS7. Things like using a date picker causing a kernel panic. How are you running it? On a tertiary device or on your phone? Just curious.
I'm not FireBeyond but I've been using iOS 7 effectively all day yesterday (I'm in Australia) on my primary phone (iPhone 5) and it's crashed to reboot maybe twice, that's all. The majority of apps I use work perfectly or have tiny things that don't and some visual aberrations. Date picker, for example, has been fine in the instances I've used it. It's very stable and there is little lag. There's a ton of small bugs around the place like music controls and the time on the lock screen sometimes overlapping and they'll be fixed in time.
It's been perfectly usable as my primary device.
Re: iOS 7
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have always been able to deny calls using the power button on top. Presumably that method is now compulsory.
That doesn't deny the call. It just turns the ringer/buzzer off until they give up.
If you double click the top button, it does deny the call.
Re: iOS 7
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
iOS 7 is anything but flat. In fact, one of the core concepts is "depth". Layers and new navigation patterns emphasise this.
Flat has always been about ornamentation and not layers. Plenty of flat websites have layers. Modals. Pops outs. Sliding menus. I don't know why people think flat is about not having layers. Did Apple just start this bizarre thinking?
You were doing great until the last sentence. Why is a lot of the criticism jumping to attack the corporate entity behind the design, instead of the design itself?
Re: iOS 7
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
The new visual language means design is more important. You can't hide bad design with gloss and shadows. This is obviously bad for the Dribble crowd who often seem to favour style over substance, making the common mistake that design is about making something look good.
This trope is annoying too. Design is how it works and functions, yes. But visual design is a major facet of that too. A large part of app design is the visual aesthetics. It's what helps make people download your app. It's most of what keeps them coming back for more. It matters too.
Right, but it's now harder to hide bad design with your aesthetics.
Re: iOS 7
#187To my mind this really comes down to the question of whether people who want a flat UI already have an Android or Windows Phone.
If they have, then I don't see them changing device. What would they do so for? The iphone's worst feature for a while now has been its handset - so they'd pay a penalty in accepting the device and unless the UI has a major advantage I don't see why they would.
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I don't know how many of you get the Samsung adverts from Europe and the like but the iphone gets actively mocked as a fairly out of date dumb device:
And in use figures it's not doing well outside of the U.S.
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Meanwhile it would alienate all the people who didn't want a flat UI.
If people who wants a flat UI have already gone elsewhere I don't see how Apple can do anything but make a loss on this change.
Re: iOS 7
#188Must be annoying to be Google or Microsoft right now. There's something odd about all these platitudes for features and design decisions that were lifted from competing platforms. Where were all these posts when Windows Phone or Android introduced these UI/UX ideas?
I run primarily in iOS dev circles and everyone I know who has played with a Windows phone has gushed about it. I've always thought it was better than iOS in a lot of ways. For a while I had considered switching phones, but I couldn't deal with the lack of apps (at that time).
Re: iOS 7
#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have always been able to deny calls using the power button on top. Presumably that method is now compulsory.
That doesn't deny the call. It just turns the ringer/buzzer off until they give up.
You can press it a second time after that to "deny" the call.