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Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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Re: Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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You can't, because a rebellion/revolution is a potentiality. Sure, it seemed unlikely, but now not so much. Would I criticize someone for not locking their front door? No. Locks only keep honest people honest, and the chances of your property being broken into are fairly slim. Would I criticize someone for preparing themselves for a collapse/rebellion/revolution of some kind? Absolutely not. The cost of not doing so…

I have not locked my cars in probably fifteen years. In the summer I usually leave all the car windows open (all day). Most of my neighbors do the same. It is common to see garage doors open all night in my neighborhood. When I want to throw out something like a bike it can stay on the sidewalk for weeks if I don't put a sign on it that says "free, take me". So it should come as no surprise that we don't really feel…

Agreed. Hopefully it never gets to that point, and from what I see, it wont.

I was just referring to the effects of these variables on people's minds. I agree with you that it's almost always contextual, but you'll find the odd person or two that feel very strongly about a low odd potentiality and it can definitely make you feel like their are some crazies...

But I think everyone does this to some degree. If you cancel a marathon in Halifax because of a 5 seconds phone call to the police referencing a the Boston Bomber, then most understand that... However, when one looks at the facts, in my country no one has died from Terrorism in the last 9 years... a far fetched reason for this government power grab. So I don't know. Maybe the Gun Nuts are wrong, and they have nothing to fear. But maybe most of the populations of OECD countries are completely wrong in this manufactured fear.

Source: http://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/6/332/T1.expansio...

Re: Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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Given Apple signed up to PRISM what's the point? Do you trust OSX?

Do you trust the asics you're running on? At some point this mode of thinking becomes tautological and neurotic.

Sure but the early adopters for this type of product are probably running Linux...

Re: Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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Revolution is one violent gang fighting another violent gang, producing a new boss that's same as the old boss. Instead, seriously consider ways of living and behaving which minimize your contact with and support for all gangs.

What gangs? Nobody I even know is involved with gangs or the mafia. Oh, you're an anarchist, aren't you?

By "gang", I mean any organized group of people which systematically initiates force against others, or coerces them with the credible threat of force.

What "anarchist"? Nobody I even know is an anarchist.

Re: Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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Who says it is a choice between two people? You may not have noticed, but there are more than two parties in this country. How about all the Democrat and Republican voters who talk about choosing the lesser of two evils get over it and vote for third parties whose views they agree with ? Stop being cowards and worrying about the "other side." If anything, we will at least force the major parties to work harder to kee…

Winner-take-all voting systems naturally tend to produce a two-party system. There's an aversion to vote third party due to the problem of throwing your vote away. So, before you can have viable third parties in this country, you have to revamp the voting system to something like instant runoff.

We have a Parliamentary system with six parties with at least one seat. For the most part, I'd say it barely has any effect, except maybe on some important social issues (same-sex marriage and drug use decriminalization), but which could have passed without them.

The problem is that the two major parties coalesce the broad ideology-less voters, and while the others have a solid core of supporters, they can never really get a meaningful number to really force change.

I mean, even during one of our worst economical crisis, with unemployment and poverty hitting record highs, the polls barely show any increase for the other parties.

Re: Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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post #183

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What gangs? Nobody I even know is involved with gangs or the mafia. Oh, you're an anarchist, aren't you?

By "gang", I mean any organized group of people which systematically initiates force against others, or coerces them with the credible threat of force. What "anarchist"? Nobody I even know is an anarchist.

You're a minarcho-proprietarian who considers government to be a gang. Yeah, that's actually worse than an anarchist. At least anarchists don't pretend they're not radicals.

Re: Why we can't go back to business as usual post-PRISM

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post #183

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By "gang", I mean any organized group of people which systematically initiates force against others, or coerces them with the credible threat of force. What "anarchist"? Nobody I even know is an anarchist.

You're a minarcho-proprietarian who considers government to be a gang. Yeah, that's actually worse than an anarchist. At least anarchists don't pretend they're not radicals.

I define a "gang" as any organized group of people which systematically initiates force against others, or coerces them with the credible threat of force. A gang violates my core moral principle, which is that relations among people should be by mutual consent, or not at all.

That I understand. Big chewy bloated terms like "minarcho anarcho radical yadda yadda" mean nothing to me.

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