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Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by betterunix »

lallysingh wrote: post #89
nwh wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost impossible to /avoid/ getting signed up for a pile of "newsletter" spam. Pretty much everybody that has access to my email address floods me with them.

Keep hitting the 'unsubscribe' links. For those that don't work, put in a filter to auto-delete before you see them.

Or you can just mark as spam. Most of those "newsletters" and advertisements follow a pattern that is easy for Bayesian filters to recognize (I speak from experience). Your spam filter has been trained enough when it preemptively removes such mail from your inbox.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by betterunix »

hamburglar wrote: post #117
Timothee wrote: post #40

I find all these new email products (Sparrow, Mailbox, etc.) interesting on a UI/UX level but they're highly irrelevant to me. I always read about how hard it has become to manage one's inbox, but I really don't have a problem with it. My system is simple: do not sign-up for newsletter or notifications (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, GitHub, etc.) you won't read, unsubscribe anytime you realize you don't read the ones you r…

Out of curiosity, what do you do when you run into an OSS project which requires you to subscribe to a mailing list in order to ask a question? I find the friction of this high enough that I end up staying subscribed forever (and filtering the mail) rather than unsubscribing and possibly having to resubscribe later. I'm glad gmail doesn't have a quota for email bandwidth...

"Out of curiosity, what do you do when you run into an OSS project which requires you to subscribe to a mailing list in order to ask a question?"

One massively helpful resource for this is gmane. You sign up for the mailing list and disable the delivery of mail (usually you must be subscribed to the list to post a message), then use gmane to read messages (hopefully using your favorite NNTP client instead of the gmane website).

http://gmane.org/

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by barista »

bbx wrote: post #38

The main difference I can see with labels (at least for power users) is that the mails get filtered automatically by Google in these categories. I believe that most of us here on HN won't see this feature as revolutionary but it might help the less tech-savvy ones. For quite some time, I've been happy with GMail because I set up a system through which each email is ultimately stored in one of my predefined labels. I…

Outlook.com/Hotmail has had this for a while now and ?I love it. Good to see Gmail finally catching up to it.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by barista »

slg wrote: post #120
dirkgently wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It may look the same, but I think you are missing a bigger picture. Google is at the forefront of machine learning. They have been doing it for a long time, and lately, they have taken it to a different level with new features rolled out across their various services. For example, and you'd probably know, in Google Plus, now you can search pictures by the subject which can purely analyzes the data (without meta-data)…

I am not sure what you think I am missing. Google has offered this type of filtering before. I have continued to use it for the last year and really enjoy it. The already existing feature is more intelligent than "a big table of senders". For example, some of the emails I receive from Amazon are sent directly to me as notifications and some are filtered away into Promotions to be viewed on my schedule. It is smart en…

Heck outlook.com/Hotmail has had it for a while. I don't get what the big deal is.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by TeMPOraL »

bretthopper wrote: post #36

These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Well, the thing is that the better the product gets, the bigger chance there is that any new incremental change to the parts that work good (as opposed to adding new features) will screw them up. GMail has been excellent for years, so it's understandable people get worried about such changes.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by betterunix »

aiiane wrote: post #30
adventured wrote: post #14

So they're giving me sub folders ("tabs") for my inbox folder. How very 1999. What Gmail is really doing is adding more layers of complexity. Now they have hard wired folders (inbox, sent, etc), labels (aka custom folders), tabs in the inbox, and importance markers (starred / not). They're making the same mistake that consumed many of Microsoft's email efforts: adding complexity thinking that's how you add 'power con…

not forced to use it. What would you rather they add?

"What would you rather they add?"

Sieve support. Why do I need to log into their website (i.e. why do I need to log in a second time, when I already logged in via my mail client) just to set up a server-side filter?

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by TeMPOraL »

jonny_eh wrote: post #127
simonsarris wrote: post #126

Oooh I like this very much, though it looks like I'm not allowed to play with it just yet on my account. Labels and filters solve several Gmail problems but demand too much footwork on my part. I found that my Gmail experience got better when I adopted this credo about two weeks ago: Thou shalt have but one Gmail label, and that label's name shalt be "Needs Reply". Either it can wait, and be there when I specifically…

For emails that need a reply, I just keep those as "marked unread". There's no way I forget about those.

I star them instead. It's one click/keypress and they don't unstar themselves next time I open them (accidentally or not).

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by mililani »

I don't know about this new Gmail inbox, but what I do know is that Gmail seems to be getting progressive worse with every iteration. Has anyone seen what they've done to Google Talk and Gmail? Basically, every chat message is now saved in Gmail as a sent message. It's so bad now that my entire Sent folder is cluttered and unusable. I had to resort to Conversations view, which I utterly despise, to make things more readable again.

I have a feeling this new Inbox is going to be another iteration of fail.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

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Post by jonathanjaeger »

dskhatri wrote: post #65
bretthopper wrote: post #36

These comments are pretty sad. I know we feel the need to comment on everything right away these days, but honestly there isn't much to say about this feature until we've actually used it. HN almost universally believes in execution over the idea, yet here we are trashing an idea before seeing the execution. It's great that Gmail is trying to innovate and improve the email experience. Maybe this feature won't work ou…

Knee-jerk reactions are a big problem on this site. Perhaps there should be a delay between a story posting and comments being allowed.

I agree it's easy to have a knee-jerk reaction, but we also have to consider the fact that people who don't like something are much more likely to speak out than people who are neutral or positive. Take into consideration how every major Facebook change has been met with a seemingly loud "boycott Facebook" petition.. on Facebook. We can't really over-police these things.

Re: A new Gmail inbox

#190

Post by mbreese »

sinofer wrote: post #131
vidarh wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given how obnoxious the new compose it, it is getting hard to trust them to do the right thing with Gmail.

Opinions can vary. I love the new compose.

Agreed. But I for one, can't stand it. I don't like composing emails on top of other things in the background. I find it jarring. For similar reasons, I also don't like the reply mode where you are editing within a conversation.

I guess I like viewing messages in the context of a conversation, but not composing them that way. I just wish that I had the option of composing things separately.

C'est la vie.

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