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Post by marssaxman »

greenlander wrote: post #106
marssaxman wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep my data safe by storing it on hardware I control and never depending on cloud-service providers.

Any serious amount of data storage requires a hard drive (as opposed to flash), and hard drives are quite fragile. If you drop one on a hard floor it's probably done. And with time they fail for all kinds of other reasons. They are mechanical devices.

I seem to have had better than average luck with hard drives; it's been about 20 years since I've had one die while I was still using it. In any case, yes, I rely on a great big hard drive for backup, but it sits on the bottom shelf of a large cabinet; it's not falling any distance onto anything.

What's more important is that I know exactly where it is and who has access to it, and I will continue to have access to it as long as I keep on feeding it electricity.

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Post by coldtea »

jamesaguilar wrote: post #180
coldtea wrote: post #159

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> I'm not sure what kind of fallacy it would be that I make decisions based on my rationally derived probability estimates. If there is such a fallacy I would love to hear about it. The fallacy that those are "rationally derived probability estimates" instead of numbers pulled out of one's arse in the first place. What gave you the impression that putting random intuition numbers on the P(paid)/P(free) boxes makes it…

> random intuition numbers Are you talking about intuition numbers, or random numbers? They are fundamentally different things. Empirical research is not the only kind of rational evidence. See http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Evidence

>Are you talking about intuition numbers, or random numbers? They are fundamentally different things.

Not if your intuition is based on random feelings and thoughts instead of "empirical research".

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Post by lutusp »

coldtea wrote: post #182
jamesaguilar wrote: post #180

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> random intuition numbers Are you talking about intuition numbers, or random numbers? They are fundamentally different things. Empirical research is not the only kind of rational evidence. See http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Evidence

> Are you talking about intuition numbers, or random numbers? They are fundamentally different things. Not if your intuition is based on random feelings and thoughts instead of "empirical research".

>> Are you talking about intuition numbers, or random numbers? They are fundamentally different things.

> Not if your intuition is based on random feelings and thoughts instead of "empirical research".

Actually, "random feelings" and "random numbers" really are different things. A random feeling occurs in the context of a particular individual's possible spectrum of feelings, a small subset of all feelings. But by definition, a specific random number must spring from an infinite set of random numbers to meet the technical meaning of "random".

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Post by dhimes »

jbooth wrote: post #174
powercycle wrote: post #171

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Given that there is common law "duty to serve" protection, how is it that many electric utilities are now offering discounts in exchange for installing devices that give them the power to throttle your air conditioner during a heat wave?

Probably nobody's challenged them on it, and moreover if they did there'd be the counter-arguments that it's voluntary and that throttling the A/C enhances their service by preventing brownouts.

And, besides, it says right there in the TOS that you clicked through to create the account that....

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Post by Spooky23 »

kybernetyk wrote: post #127
robomartin wrote: post #117

Seriously, why does ANYONE use anything other than Google Search and Analytics? Why do you willfully choose to expose yourself and your business to what they can do to you? From the article: "A few minutes into my Google-less existence, I realized how dependent I had become. I couldn’t finish my work or my taxes, because my notes and expenses were stored in Google Drive, and I didn’t know what else I should work on b…

Can you suggest a viable alternative to Google Mail? I'm feeling uncomfortable having all my mail in Google's hands but haven't found an alternative yet.

Office 365. $50/year.

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Post by dhimes »

DanBC wrote: post #169

It would be nice if Google, when they threw you out, let you download a glob of your data. That would make the thing a lot less painful for most people. > Google told me for the first time that it reserves the right to “terminate your account at any time, for any reason, with or without notice.” No one reads the ToS / AUP, but this shows why it's a problem. It was not the first time Google told this guy; he was told…

At the very least they should tell you exactly why. To not do so is, at the very least, extremely bad manners.

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Post by jjuliano »

kybernetyk wrote: post #127
robomartin wrote: post #117

Seriously, why does ANYONE use anything other than Google Search and Analytics? Why do you willfully choose to expose yourself and your business to what they can do to you? From the article: "A few minutes into my Google-less existence, I realized how dependent I had become. I couldn’t finish my work or my taxes, because my notes and expenses were stored in Google Drive, and I didn’t know what else I should work on b…

Can you suggest a viable alternative to Google Mail? I'm feeling uncomfortable having all my mail in Google's hands but haven't found an alternative yet.

get one of those Seagate GoFlex NAS and just install Arch Linux ARM and setup your domain and mail servers with it. Your data is saved with you portably.

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by tripzilch »

oulipo wrote: post #137
kybernetyk wrote: post #127

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Can you suggest a viable alternative to Google Mail? I'm feeling uncomfortable having all my mail in Google's hands but haven't found an alternative yet.

Start by simply backing up your emails regularly with BaGoMa

I was going to suggest GMVault, which I use with success. Anybody got experience to tell me how they compare?

OTOH GMVault does the job fine, which I guess is most important.

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Post by dragonwriter »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #115
gscott wrote: post #108

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When you're God you can just send a flood and say "well I hope that person built a boat". (i.e that the person should have a copy of their data).

Even the god in the fable you're referencing gave Noah advance notice of the flood.

> Even the god in the fable you're referencing gave Noah advance notice of the flood.

Yeah, but it wasn't Noah's ToS violation that the god involved was addressing.

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