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News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

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Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#181

There's one thing apparently missing in the article (and discussion here) that for me is the most important reason not to read news - namely, they lie. All the time. And when they don't, they systematically confuse stuff, ending up in writing wrong articles anyway. Proof? Just pretty much every article about science, technology or business submitted here on HN gets debunked in the top comment. If they can't get simpl…

Never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

Regardless of their intention, the outcome is the same.

I like the astrology analogy. They don't hate you, they're just making up stories you like to hear, so you'll stay and listen.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#182
National vs. local news is an important distinction here that many of these "The key to happiness is ignoring the news" posts miss.

The breathless CNN story about the latest missing white woman might not be relevant to your life, but your local newspaper's stories about property taxes, parking fees, local entertainment events and people in your community most certainly are.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#183
post #84

you do realize you are posting news right? on Hacker NEWS

RTFA. Or don't, and simply understand this: "the news", as referred to in the OP, is actually a subset of news in general, in the same way that fast food is a subset of food in general. The point is what while most people can easily distinguish between fast-food and proper food, many people aren't nearly so discerning when it comes to their information diets.

Not sure if I'm that pessimistic. Check the actual ratings. Google for it, I am glancing at "Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Thursday, April 11, 2013" In a country of 400 million people, "1,133 thousands" aka about a million watched fox news. There is the hidden assumption that the million who watch are true believers as opposed to out for a laugh or just filling time or curious what the opposition thinks. But for the sake of argument I'll assume any TV tuned into fox news is a true believer. That means 1.1 million people cannot distinguish between the information diet equivalent of fast food and proper food, but roughly four hundred million can distinguish. Lets assume there are around 10 or so other networks pushing meaningless mind candy. Making it a problem around the two percent range.

Its a narrowcasting thing. Could you make a news station that appeals broadly to maybe 25% of the population, which would be about a hundred times as many as watch fox news? Yes, but from a narrowcasting perspective they've convinced themselves that having 1% of the fans but having them be absolutely rabid fans is "better" for advertising sales or whatever.

The same thinking is killing mass media in general. For example saturday night live appeals intensely to about 2 million hard core fans. The other 398 million in the population will not watch it for free. Does "Survivor" define the american cultural obsession with reality TV? Maybe, but it doesn't define american culture because only 9.38 million bothered to watch last week for free... the other 390 million are uninterested.

Not quite as severe as the obesity epidemic.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#184
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I've come to a similar conclusion. Because news emphasizes the dramatic over the contextual, they're always providing me poor information in an even poorer context. That's just the way the business works. I've done something weird, though: I switched to plaintext commentary. So each day I scan my personal news site, http://newspaper23.com . It only does commentary. I find that by scanning the titles I can see what ne…

This is amazing. Just glancing through that newspaper23.com site for a few seconds, I am amazed at how many headlines are written to be panic-inducing or inflammatory, rather than simply calm reporting. That was more an eyeopener to me about the status of today's news than anything else.

Headline-writing has always been an art, and grabbing attention a significant aspect of it. The eyeball / viral / advertising / pageview economy of the web has really taken it several stages too far.

I read The New York Times (which generally stays away from this) and the Economist. I've all but given up on several local news sites which, as their economic underpinnings continue to be knocked out from under them, have devolved into ever more shrill (and banal) headlines. Up until the past year or so they were still somewhat relevant, but I've noticed a marked downturn in quality even in the past few months.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#185
Even following nominally "quality" news sources -- NPR, PBS, The New York Times, the Economist -- I've been finding the points of this article increasingly true.

Mainstream commercial news -- CNN, HuffPo, my local city paper / news site, and much of what passes for news on the Web, are virtually intolerable. Banal, lowest common denominator (erm: "greatest", but nobody would understand) content, celebrity gossip, baiting headlines, "ten reasons" pageview content. Gratuitously paginated articles. Excessively overdesigned pages with floaters, social nags, and pop-up interstitial surveys and yet more "social" pleadings. Fake-viral advertising whether "flash mobs" orchestrated by banks or Hollywood movie hype engines. Intentionally infuriating political tactics. Get off of me!

Somewhere during the past Presidential campaign I think I started to snap. Whether it was talking heads blathering about things they understood poorly, incessant focus on horse-race (and ignoring the deeper historical and policy stories), everything just started grating on me.

The lack of depth and context to much news coverage has also been apparent to me for quite some time. Particularly in the case of large developing stories, or those with a long backstory, I've found that Wikipedia is often a much better source of information. I'd first realized this during the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake & tsunami -- far too vast a story for any one news article to wrap its head around. TV and radio could merely repeat the basics or show the same footage repeatedly. Wikipedia could organize and contextualize the facts as they came in.

There are also the odd stories which do affect me, my life, my neighborhood, or my professional interests. They're rare, but they do happen. A benefit of today's world over, say, 20 years ago, is that when such events do occur, it's much more possible to dig in and get more than the very light spread of truth and misreporting that's inevitable in the lay press.

Not that I've stopped paying attention to the news. But I'm very conscious of when it is annoying, and there are days I'll turn it off. The day of the Newtown shootings I heard the news late in the day, and just turned it off. I knew largely how it would unfold, that it didn't affect me directly, that there was nothing I'd be able to do that day, but that listening would just sicken me.

Increasingly, rather than turn on news, I'll put on music. Often classical or jazz. And listen to that instead.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#186

Even following nominally "quality" news sources -- NPR, PBS, The New York Times, the Economist -- I've been finding the points of this article increasingly true. Mainstream commercial news -- CNN, HuffPo, my local city paper / news site, and much of what passes for news on the Web, are virtually intolerable. Banal, lowest common denominator (erm: "greatest", but nobody would understand) content, celebrity gossip, bai…

I would not worry too much about people misconstruing greatest common denominator as something "great". At least not here on HN.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#187
With 7 billion people in the world, it's very likely that these things will happen today:

  - someone will get killed in a horrible car accident
  - a child will be killed in a freak accident
  - someone will die from cancer, leaving much grieving behind
  - someone will molest a child
  - someone will lose all their money in a scam
  - someone will get raped
  - someone will be killed by a never-to-be-found hit-and-run drunk driver
  - someone will beat a woman
  - someone will be murdered
  - someone will die in a disaster/fire/earthquake/storm
  - an innocent bystander will be randomly shot to death
  - someone's favorite team will lose
In addition, it seems like something like this (unbelievably) happens all the time:

  - someone will murder many people
  - someone will shake a baby until it's brain dead
  - a soldier will lose vision or use of their limbs in action
  - someone will post a horrible crime on youtube
  - someone will tie a pet to railroad tracks
  - a whole family will die in an accident
I really do feel bad about all of these things, but frankly, I just don't want to be reminded 40 times every day.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#188
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://newspaper23.com looks like a great site. I've been looking for something that just shows headlines and doesn't require launching into an image-heavy site just to read the article. However, the JavaScript appears to be broken in Chrome. Switching categories doesn't work, for example.

Try http://skimfeed.com . 60 news sources, 10 titles each, one page, all text.

I like this, great on my iPad. Any plans for a mobile version?

Also, what do you the stars signify? And I think Lifehacker is showing double links.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#189
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found that if anything is truly important, I'll hear about through non-news channels (friends, family, cow-orkers, personal blogs, etc.). It works remarkably well.

That's just free riding, though. If everyone gives up news, this approach will no longer work.

Tragedy of the commons. Though that will never happen, so we're more or less free to choose the course of action that suits us best, without it having any overarching effects.

Re: News is bad for you – and giving up reading it will make you happier

#190
Depends on what you consider news and how you consume it. I tend to view conventional "news" as limited information/propaganda tool.

In the mornings/afternoons I listen to the local news broadcast for weather and traffic. These affect my daily activities, I live in a commuter region of Tornado Alley and own a house that involves outdoor maintenance.

I skim my local newspaper and local feeds, sometimes there are items that directly impact my community/household that I need to consider/deal with. (Local elections, West Nile, etc...) My spouse keeps up with the more entertaining items, so I've outsourced the fluff consumption. I use a RSS reader to stay current in my work and hobbies. It allows my to filter out the cruft in a timely manner.

If I need to be knowledgable on a political, economic or other topic, I have a wide range of resources available on the web and through the local libraries. I don't often dig deeply into the serious macro-issues, the truth is very disturbing, most people can't handle it or deny it, there's little change I can make, so I limit my "briefings" to a couple of times a year.

Knowing the "true" national/global situation and being powerless, is damn depressing. Maybe I should be a sociopath, but unfortunately I'm not wired that way.

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