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Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#181

Bluesky's active user base has never not been shrinking, no matter what they were focusing on. https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats The surest thing in tech for the past couple of years is that bluesky has fewer users than it did last month. It's entire life is due to lib slactivism. It started under the conceit of being a p2p public service, took VC, and its founder bailed and badmouthed it. It's entire existence is ideolog…

> It's entire life is due to lib slactivism I'd disagree with that, I'd say its entire life is due to the shittifying of Twitter. People, like myself, sought to recreate the experience of what Twitter used to be like and (after trying and not being satisfied with Mastodon) it's the next best thing. The problem is that a social network of this kind relies on having a large enough population to feel "live" and Bluesky…

> People, like myself, sought to recreate the experience of what Twitter used to be like

Have you tried X recently? My feed right now is:

- A neat tech bag

- Discussion about AI going rogue

- How fee markets on Hyperliquid work

- Someone who was ill from a viral infection talk about his recovery

- Someone from Team17 talking about the game Worms

It's very much what Twitter used to be like

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#182

Bluesky is a buggy borderline nonfunctional mess. The fediverse does literally everything better than it. Bluesky by comparison is completely inferior and redundant.

I had the exactly opposite experience. I'm even selfhosting my own (non-reference implementation) PDS, and going in I was fully expecting to encounter weird consistency issues, but there were none at all.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#183

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It would be the "being bots" that makes them bots. I know there's some nutcases out there, but not enough of them to fill a twitter-sized insane asylum, and I'm talking about accounts that make statements at both ends of the political spectrum. You spend about 2 minutes on there and nearly every post or comment you read leaves you thinking "there's absolutely no way a real, living, breathing person wrote this", unles…

That's really on you. There are (according to Wikidata) 259,000+ verified notable humans, who have Wikipedia articles about them, who have their own Twitter handles. Here are some of them: https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FtwitterHan... That doesn't mean they post regularly, but it's more than enough real humans to follow (so that they can retweet bot crap at you)

I assume you don't use Twitter, otherwise you'd have noticed that annoying bots are in the replies.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#184
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It's the worst recipe, apart from all the others. Unless you want to expose yourself to the constant inundation of piss that social media has become, you have to curate and block aggressively. Shared block lists that you just subscribe to are one of the few useful innovations Bluesky has made and they need to be standard for all social media in the future.

No thanks.

Cool. Enjoy the golden shower then, the rest of us will be elsewhere, dry and happy.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

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Reddit is dominated by the left, but there are other voice audible. Twitter has plenty of leftists. They are very, very, very easy to find, as is every other shape and size of political, ideological, or spiritual thought; far easier than, say, a non-leftist viewpoint on the worldnews or politics subreddits, which because of their default status are much more inescapable than any one Twitter account. There are very, v…

What does this comment even mean? Substitute "left" for any other adjective, like "purple" or "embobulated" and it's equally meaningless: "There are very, very few non-embobulated people on Bluesky."

> > There are very, very few non-left people on Bluesky.

> What does this comment even mean

“It’s amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.”

- Colin Robertson

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#186

Maybe Bluesky is not quite the Twitter rival it set out to be, but it's got a better shot than Mastodon, according to the user count graphs here: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats https://mastodon-analytics.com/ Bluesky has a higher total user count. I think the number of active users might be higher too, but I am not sure what's mastodon's definition of an active user for the second link above. Anecdotally, Bluesky feels…

Bluesky could have been a Reddit rival, with the ability to follow topics rather than users, but they screwed it up.

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#187
post #22

Maybe Bluesky is not quite the Twitter rival it set out to be, but it's got a better shot than Mastodon, according to the user count graphs here: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats https://mastodon-analytics.com/ Bluesky has a higher total user count. I think the number of active users might be higher too, but I am not sure what's mastodon's definition of an active user for the second link above. Anecdotally, Bluesky feels…

The distinction is that Mastodon doesn't have to grow, and Bluesky does. There's an extent to which Bluesky is viable because its venture-funded owner pays for the infrastructure it operates on (Mastodon communities generally have to stand on their own two feet). If there's no path for Bluesky to grow into a viable business on its current financial runway, the funding for the infrastructure will end.

I imagine the ATProto infrastructure would survive. Declining activity would be bad for BlueSky, but running a firehose is not that expensive. Many people could fund it themselves. Also, it would get cheaper to run as traffic declines.

Also, the firehose is not strictly necessary either if you’re willing to give up seeing replies from anyone, anywhere and just see the feeds you subscribe to, like an RSS reader.

The hard part is moderation and keeping up with changes in regulations, not the infrastructure itself. Also, continued funding for new development is good. I’m interested in seeing what the permissioned data proposal [1] turns into.

[1] https://github.com/bluesky-social/proposals/tree/main/0016-p...

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#188

Maybe Bluesky is not quite the Twitter rival it set out to be, but it's got a better shot than Mastodon, according to the user count graphs here: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats https://mastodon-analytics.com/ Bluesky has a higher total user count. I think the number of active users might be higher too, but I am not sure what's mastodon's definition of an active user for the second link above. Anecdotally, Bluesky feels…

Wait, Mastodon has 10 million users and 8000 servers? That's way more than I would of guessed. So Mastodon is a real thing in the world now.

Twitter has something like a half a billion users. So it wins I guess...

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#189
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Is there a different timeline?

Yeah, but it's behind a cosmic paywall.

Oh my gods, this is such a fantastic line. I wish I could upvote this bit several more times

Re: Bluesky's active user base is shrinking as its focus expands beyond the app

#190

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The only way in which BlueSky is preferentially catering to the left is by existing as an alternative to X and specifically providing tighter control of what is in your feed; and this is only “catering to the Left” because of the groups towards which X either has weakened or stopped enforcing its policies against harassment towards. (In a market with strong network externalities, being the dominant player is self rei…

X no longer makes the "people dogpiling conservatives is consequence culture" vs "people dogpiling far leftists is harassment" distinction, but BlueSky still does.

Perhaps the asymmetry has something to do with the fact that the conservatives are sharing memes about immigrants eating cats, and similar quality takes, during a profoundly fascist moment in American history, but what do I know? I'm just another snowflake
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