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Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

neitherboosh wrote: post #101
zie1ony wrote: post #2

Creator here, There is a new kind of task for software engineers these days. A client calls, asks for a "small refactor," and sends you 100k lines of AI-generated spaghetti. And this is great! This is something we can work with. Any experienced engineer can look at a codebase like that and quickly see what to refactor, where a library replaces a few thousand hand-rolled lines, and what smells bad. Removing the first…

The copy on your website itself kind of reads like LLM slop (eg. "One week. Three senior engineers. $10,000"). You may have written it yourself and marketing copy just tends to look like this, but it doesn't inspire confidence that your service will actually improve my code.

No shame in using Fable to help with the grammar and style of text. English is not my native language and while I can use it quite well, LLMs are much better in forming my thoughs into something simple, that sounds great.

My writing workflow is: (1) write what I want to have on the page. (2) /grill-me it should be sound and logical and easy to read. (3) Manually review the text, replace by hand what I don't like.

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

tikhonj wrote: post #155
neitherboosh wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The copy on your website itself kind of reads like LLM slop (eg. "One week. Three senior engineers. $10,000"). You may have written it yourself and marketing copy just tends to look like this, but it doesn't inspire confidence that your service will actually improve my code.

If you have even the remotest mental slop filter, I assume you are not really part of their target market.

There is also a flip side of this. I work a lot with AI-generate text and I can also catch it quickly, but most of the time now, it's easier to read AI, than humans with their weird chain of thoughts and compex sentences ;P

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

ribs wrote: post #103
zie1ony wrote: post #2

Creator here, There is a new kind of task for software engineers these days. A client calls, asks for a "small refactor," and sends you 100k lines of AI-generated spaghetti. And this is great! This is something we can work with. Any experienced engineer can look at a codebase like that and quickly see what to refactor, where a library replaces a few thousand hand-rolled lines, and what smells bad. Removing the first…

I wonder how you do it when faced with what are undoubtedly poor functional, regression, and unit test coverages.

Initial AI scan can list most of system usecases. Then we review it with a client and agree on what must stay. We can propse better solutions at this stage. If we remove the code, then we can also remove its unit tests. For intergation, repo-wide tests, we treat it as documentation/requirements that must work on the other side.

Human to human interaction is the tool we use the most :)

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

protocolture wrote: post #10
zie1ony wrote: post #2

Creator here, There is a new kind of task for software engineers these days. A client calls, asks for a "small refactor," and sends you 100k lines of AI-generated spaghetti. And this is great! This is something we can work with. Any experienced engineer can look at a codebase like that and quickly see what to refactor, where a library replaces a few thousand hand-rolled lines, and what smells bad. Removing the first…

>I am sharing this because cleaning up after agents with 1M token context is a real business for engineers. Curious what HN thinks. Its the same as it ever was. Cleaning up after cloud migrations, cleaning up after crypto integrations, cleaning up after LLM tokenmaxxing. I think people are deluded if they tell you LLMs will replace humans.

With a twist that you also have to use LLM for the job to finish it in time.

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #84
zie1ony wrote: post #2

Creator here, There is a new kind of task for software engineers these days. A client calls, asks for a "small refactor," and sends you 100k lines of AI-generated spaghetti. And this is great! This is something we can work with. Any experienced engineer can look at a codebase like that and quickly see what to refactor, where a library replaces a few thousand hand-rolled lines, and what smells bad. Removing the first…

its no difference than US team fixing slop written by outsource company from India. where do you think LLMs learn slop code from?

I worked with such an "enterprise code" in the past. LLM code is a bit different. For example you don't see code repetition in the same file very often. I'd say it's a next level of slop. Slop at scale!

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

zombot wrote: post #172
zie1ony wrote: post #2

Creator here, There is a new kind of task for software engineers these days. A client calls, asks for a "small refactor," and sends you 100k lines of AI-generated spaghetti. And this is great! This is something we can work with. Any experienced engineer can look at a codebase like that and quickly see what to refactor, where a library replaces a few thousand hand-rolled lines, and what smells bad. Removing the first…

If unclogging the sewers is a way how the deluge of AI slop can create new work, then more power to you! It's one more element that makes it even harder to write satire that is more absurd than reality.

Our profession is keep changing. A few years from now, future developers will look at us and say: "2026, what a wild, wild west it was".

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by zie1ony »

js2 wrote: post #46
zie1ony wrote: post #2

Creator here, There is a new kind of task for software engineers these days. A client calls, asks for a "small refactor," and sends you 100k lines of AI-generated spaghetti. And this is great! This is something we can work with. Any experienced engineer can look at a codebase like that and quickly see what to refactor, where a library replaces a few thousand hand-rolled lines, and what smells bad. Removing the first…

From the submitted link: > we distil what it does FYI, "distill".

fixed

Re: We charge $10k a week to delete AI-generated code

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Post by tim333 »

socratic_weeb wrote: post #159
thraway3837 wrote: post #39

We replaced a 120,000 USD/year low-code/no-code platform that was running a lot of workflows. And we have another platform that is also similar that we are on track to replace by EOY. Both have been replaced by "vibe" coding. It works well. Everyone's happy. People are having fun with it. We get feature requests, improvements, ideas, feedback. JIRA tickets get created, and we ask AI to reference that ticket, code to…

This industry's complete outsourcing of its core business value on a third party proprietary subscription based tool, Claude, made by an unprofitable company, Anthropic, is very concerning. You are all lunatics, sorry.

I think the comment said they were outsourcing it to "whatever".
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