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Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by linkregister »

mrmckizzle wrote: post #175
prima-facie wrote: post #99

Laws restricting the use of local AI/LLMs are not going to happen, no matter how much Anthropic might want it. All the major OEMs are now counting on local LLMs to take off. Just look at the OEM support for the upcoming Nvidia RTX Spark platform: Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft, MSI. All the big names in the industry will have, by the end of this year, Nvidia-powered machines made specifically for local LLM use.

Can you use an LLM to teach you how to build a gun or use it to design a gun for you build? Can an LLM be used to generate images of young people for older perverts? If yes, then it's not very hard to make the argument that you need to be licensed in order to run an LLM on your local machine. Why wouldn't you want to be licensed? Are you against protecting children and public safety? Many students die from gun violen…

In the US, attaching legislation like that to firearms instructions would doom its success. It sounds like a great idea to ratfuck a potential bill. No Republican would be able to pass a bill that bans local agents from helping citizens exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

The politics are probably different in other countries. We're still seeing Chat Control efforts in the EU.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#182

Post by CamperBob2 »

kube-system wrote: post #150
danlitt wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3d printing control laws that are being passed in NY The "don't print guns" laws? What lobby would that be? I actually agree that the US is very vulnerable to lobbying and that 3d printing restrictions are dumb, but I have no idea how you connected the two.

> The "don't print guns" laws? What lobby would that be? Gun control lobbying groups are pushing for these laws. https://www.everytown.org/solutions/stop-spread-of-3d-printe...

Wow, that is some breathtaking stupidity. Almost literally breathtaking. Who is funding these people?

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

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Post by varispeed »

This is obvious. I bet there are already lavish dinners designed to manufacture support amongst politicians for such regulation.

The big AI companies cannot leave money on the table. The local models will be restricted sooner or later as long as corruption is not investigated and prosecuted.

The petitions don't have any power. If you really want change you should start gofundme. Buy your MP or minister a yacht or hire their nephew.

Unfortunately you are unlikely going to outbid multi billion corporations.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#185

Post by andai »

linkregister wrote: post #181
mrmckizzle wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you use an LLM to teach you how to build a gun or use it to design a gun for you build? Can an LLM be used to generate images of young people for older perverts? If yes, then it's not very hard to make the argument that you need to be licensed in order to run an LLM on your local machine. Why wouldn't you want to be licensed? Are you against protecting children and public safety? Many students die from gun violen…

In the US, attaching legislation like that to firearms instructions would doom its success. It sounds like a great idea to ratfuck a potential bill. No Republican would be able to pass a bill that bans local agents from helping citizens exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. The politics are probably different in other countries. We're still seeing Chat Control efforts in the EU.

https://xkcd.com/504/

> I think the crypto community took the wrong side in that fight. We should have lobbied to keep it counted as weaponry.

> Why?

> Once they get complacent, we break out the second amendment.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#186

Post by AlexandrB »

prima-facie wrote: post #99

Laws restricting the use of local AI/LLMs are not going to happen, no matter how much Anthropic might want it. All the major OEMs are now counting on local LLMs to take off. Just look at the OEM support for the upcoming Nvidia RTX Spark platform: Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Microsoft, MSI. All the big names in the industry will have, by the end of this year, Nvidia-powered machines made specifically for local LLM use.

I love how Nvidia is playing both sides. No matter whether AI's future is local or on the cloud, they come out ahead. I suspect they're going to be the biggest beneficiaries from the AI run up.

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#187

Post by charleslmunger »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #182
kube-system wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The "don't print guns" laws? What lobby would that be? Gun control lobbying groups are pushing for these laws. https://www.everytown.org/solutions/stop-spread-of-3d-printe...

Wow, that is some breathtaking stupidity. Almost literally breathtaking. Who is funding these people?

Michael Bloomberg

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#189

Post by Der_Einzige »

XorNot wrote: post #111
matheusmoreira wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't doubt it. Situation is fluid. Anything could happen.

Its just so much easier to be a rebel for an imaginary cause then any of the real ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Without_a_Cause

Re: Protect your right to run local AI

#190

Post by anon373839 »

gonzalohm wrote: post #138
prima-facie wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And this is exactly my point, the OEMs have more lobbying power and leverage. Anthropic might be valuated at whatever amount, but they're a new player and their only product is a piece of software - which others like Google, OpenAI, etc also have (not identical but similar enough). EDIT: FYI https://ibb.co/nMYP34Rr

And you think Google, one of the biggest cloud providers, Microsoft, etc. are going to be onboard with local LLMs? I don't think so

Google and Microsoft both have released a bunch of open models and research, unlike Anthropic, which does nothing but take.
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