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How _does_ it work then, without imposing IP addresses, NAT routing, keys, etc?
We technical people use IPv6 so that anything can access anything, and the camera people put a password on their camera so you can only see the video feed if you know the password.
"admin admin is fine"
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But then you’re tethered to the device manufacturer and probably need other Terrible UX like an account/credentials, password resets, and so on. And that tether also opens the door for the company to remote control the product, spy through telemetry, and remotely “alter the deal” at their whim. Some people might be ok with this but a “tether to the company” is a deal breaker to me for most products.
For me too, but we can manage keys, firewalls, routing, IP addresses, etc. The issue is a solution for the vast public of end users who can't do those things. Anyway, the vendor could offer the proxy as an optional service, and let you and I do what we want in some advanced mode.
This website---naturally, I think---weirds me out. Many of these cameras are in private spaces, with some places you most certainly don't want people to have live feeds of. It's quite disturbing how you can see personal snapshots of people's lives without them knowing. There's a perverse feeling of dread about being able to see into someone's life and being able to paradoxically watch someone eat dinner alone, seemin…
I wonder how plausible it would be to deduce where a given webcam is (some combination of IP data, context clues, visible landmarks, maybe face searching) and then contact the owner to let them know. There used to be this fun site called where-is-this.com where people could share images of public places for others to try to track down; it would be nice to harness something like that for good.
Everyone: For a moment forget everything you know about computers and wonder if perhaps 99% of normies are just following the directions on the package of their $19 Chinese IP camera. They have no idea what a firewall is, or what the "public internet" even means. There's also a difference between your neighbor not closing her blinds and you using a telescope to look inside her apartment, which is what sites like this…
I still don’t understand how someone can end up accidentally exposing things to the public internet. With every ISP I have ever had in my country, it’s all NAT by default. Whatever I connect to my network, wired or wireless, would not be publicly accessible just like that unless I really really went out of my way to make it publicly accessible. How do so many people end up exposing these cameras to the public interne…
"Hey, so I can just do a HTTP request to the router and open a port? Neat"
Used to use it back in the day when my ISP didn't allow for port forwarding, but did allow UPnP, so had a cron job that re-opened it every x hours when it reset.
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I see it more like that there are things you can do to make sure nobody else gets into your home, like locking the door. If your door is unlocked, either through ignorance or negligence, it's still not right for someone else to just walk into your home and look through stuff you thought was private. Sure, they can do it, but just being able to easily do something doesn't make it right.
You'll be surprised by the number of people who thinks if you leave your internet door unlocked then your internet belongings are free to take. There is someone in this very thread arguing that having an internet enable camera in your home turns your home into a public place. It is also funny, and depressing that many of the same people who think might makes right on the internet ends up lamenting how fucked up life…
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I don't think the username as password is required. Open a Bittorrent client and it will try and port forward port 6881 using UPnP.
Which doesn’t matter about the password. If you have a faulty router which allows unauthorised inbound connections then you have a bigger problem than weak credentials
You don't even need to do UPnP, if you're okay with a random port, you can just do STUN.
Site won't load for me, but I remember in the late 2000s when I was a kid, I found online some string you could type into Google and it would give you unsecured webcams in the results. (Not sure why Google was indexing random people's home IPs, how does the crawler even end up there?) I recall most of them were in Asia.. street cameras, supermarkets.. then I suddenly found myself looking into someone's bedroom. Fortu…
Hah, someone from UK seems to have a camera pointing to his cannabis plants... Hopefully the guy has a "loicense" for that, otherwise it would be a hilarious way to get busted
That’s the first one I saw too. I’m not even convinced these are all real, or at least are staged: https://ipcrawl.com/?page=6&cam=63f7feaf5042d223 That’s the invisible man hanging out at a tennis match…
How do you find an ISP that doesn't kick you out for scanning?
Also so many people are infected with malware constantly scanning that ISP's don't bother
Is it legal to have such a website?
Like trespass, requires intent. When a car-park is private land, it's inferred that the public has access.