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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by adrian_b »

baq wrote: post #9
usernamed7 wrote: post #3

Let us hope this only accelerates the proliferation of local models

Serving barely useful GLM 5.2 costs what? $15k? Actually useful is like $50k? You’ll never recoup the cost unless you ‘locally’ means ‘inference provider is not the model provider’?

The high costs are necessary for high speed.

When a low speed of the order of one token per second is accepted, any open weights LLM can be run on an ordinary PC (with the weights read from SSDs) and the cost becomes negligible.

Such a low speed would be annoying for a chat, but I do not believe that it is "barely useful" for a coding assistant. There are plenty of tasks for which it is fine to get results some hours later or even overnight, and batching multiple tasks can complete them in about the same time as a single task.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by transcriptase »

jsyang00 wrote: post #177
827a wrote: post #147

Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to aut…

> Pointless CYA They are literally being forced to do this by the government. The counter-ask if for them to self immolate in order to take a principled stand, as access to all their models is banned.

Perhaps they should stop being holier than thou wackjobs and try the “shut the fuck up and act like a business” strategy of being a business.

Seems to be working for every other AI company.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by alden5 »

Artoooooor wrote: post #20

Every time I consider renting a service from Anthropic, they drop such bomb. Full capability with pre-agreed price per token and no ID verification. That's what I demand.

I love openrouter for this, I just put in $20 and i’m able to chat with almost every model out right now or plug their api into any ide that supports openai api requests. I use llm’s off and on and it’s nice not worrying if i’m getting my use out of a subscription. just note that claude subscriptions can be a lot more cost effective vs paying per token if you’re a power user.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by coldtea »

inigyou wrote: post #14
xmstan wrote: post #2

Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

Net neutrality wasn't about ID checks.

Doesn't matter, the neutrality part still applies: just provide the same damn service to customers, regardless of who they are.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by antiframe »

realusername wrote: post #146
alaudet wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% the exact second I get some popup telling me to upload documents to continue is when claude pro gets decommissioned.

Same, I won't upload ID documents for obvious security reasons

That's the reason I don't have an id.me account to check my IRS account. I just use their guest login to play my tax bill quarterly. Not sure how I will pay my taxes once they nix that.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by mad_tortoise »

jsyang00 wrote: post #177
827a wrote: post #147

Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to aut…

> Pointless CYA They are literally being forced to do this by the government. The counter-ask if for them to self immolate in order to take a principled stand, as access to all their models is banned.

Or move to Europe/China/insert lovely tax haven here. They don't have to base their operations in the USA, they CHOOSE to. I will cancel my subscription because of this, and happily use DeepSeek/mimo or whatever else comes for a fraction of the cost. China won't and mostly can't do anything with my data, the US government can and certainly will.

I'll pick my poison thanks and choose Chinese surveillance.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Post by eimrine »

inigyou wrote: post #88
shevy-java wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So ... like reddit! :) Thankfully I don't depend on any of such services. It would make me rather angry.

HN also has shadowbans. If your preferences have showdead=yes, you might see some.

That's a decent moderation, shadowban is a totally different thing. AFAIK, your karma is enough to vouch that Flagged topics or comments and return that piece into a regular displaying.
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